It looks like it currently doesn’t ship to Japan. Any plans to include Japan in the future? I would have pre-ordered already if it did.
Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk! Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display). Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about t…
1) remarkable & ratta are traditional off the shelf eink and have to use a frontlight (above the display) which has many tradeoffs 2) daylight actually uses microperforations in our LivePaper display, so we're able to use a backlight, which in our opinion is superior in multiple ways one of which, is what you're describing! our backlight doesnt affect writing feel or distance from pen tip to display! (also way better…
Very cool! Thank you, I will be following closely and may convince myself to join Batch 3 :) And will probably reach out in a few days (I'm sure you're quite busy right now!)
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's interesting that Anjan compared the display tech to Pebble, because selling off the company instead of just the IP is where Pebble completely failed consumers. Pebble had something incredibly special, and then Fitbit bought Pebble and (for reasons I don't know) immediately killed all their projects and shelved all their tech. In a different reality, Anjan would have said, "Think of it as a Godzilla sized Fitbit…
The Pebbles display wasn't Pebbles own tech, they used off-the-shelf MIP LCDs from Sharp. You can still buy them and they're still used in more utilitarian wearables, e.g. from Garmin, and in the Playdate. Sharp doesn't make anything tablet-sized though, so that's not what OP is using.
They do have 5" and 31.5" reflective displays though, they call them Reflective IGZO Displays.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk! Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display). Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about t…
Source: I was the chief hardware engineer for this device. The problem with eink tablets is that they must use front light, and not backlight due to how eink works. This means there is an extra layer in front of the layer where the pixels are, which causes parallax effects which makes writing feel fake. This is (likely) why remarkable deleted the frontlight from their product. Whereas with the daylight tablet, we hav…
I did not pick up on the frontlight/backlight distinction when reading the overview, thanks! Seems like some very novel tech here, I'd love to see more technical details when they're revealed
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#216Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
FYI there's a typo on the product page, "blacklight" instead of "backlight". I assume that's not a branding thing since it's referred to as a backlight elsewhere.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#217Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Respect. Not easy to do hardware. I will order one for sure to try it out. Very interesting.
A few questions that i hope to get an answer to:
How did you finance the company? How much money did you spend on R&D & production etc?
What was the initial idea you had? What were the biggest challenges before you knew for sure you got the final product?
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#218IMO, the software will be the most important part of the device, not necessarily the screen. What makes the Remarkable great is that it's functionality (while limited) makes for an excellent experience. Any more details on what apps will be built in and designed for the device? (not just 3rd party Android apps that will feel like any other tablet). Also - I would order this immediately to support more e-ink devices,…
we've built our own PDF parser / renderer, so we have a pretty good beta PDF reader app we're building next up would be epub reader / support and then building our own notetaker & typewriter app (though google docs, lex.page, IA writer are pretty good) and many more services and apps, like actually finally good handwriting recognition
Why PDF first? Isn't reading Ebooks (in ebook format) the main use case for such devices?
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#219Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc.
Would you license this to others at a more affordable rate than e-ink? Lenovo has some e-ink 2-in-1 "thinkbook" laptops and might be a good partner... I'm sure you're considered this already.
Personally I am sold on the 'low distraction and eye strain' of e-ink, and would be keen on buying a computer with that display. That said, I'm more interested in a general computer running a general operating system (ubuntu or any linux) if I'm using something for daily work. Even if your own operating system can do these things I would be concerned with edge-cases for software I need for work, so for professional daily usage I need an OS that is battle-tested, and not based on a locked-down sandboxed mobile system like android where I'd have to fight the OS to do what I want.
I do own and use a remarkable, so I'm probably in the target market. I only use the remarkable for note taking, it's handy for freehand sketching visual ideas or concepts digitally, where typing or any sort of computer drawing with a mouse may add friction that gets in the way of getting the ideas down onto paper. The main advantage over paper is so I don't need to worry about misplacing the pieces of draft paper afterwards, when I revisit an idea months later.
I definitely don't want a tablet for typing code. If I'm going to carry around an external keyboard, I might as well just get a thin-and-light laptop.
I almost bought the aforementioned thinkbook with the e-ink display. Main reason I didn't was that I was worried about compatibility issues if I ran linux, since it's designed for windows.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#220Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Please, tell me there's a phone coming along. Light Phone made a mistake not going Android. You totally nailed it with that casually dropped Spotify icon in that shot! I personally have zero use for a tablet. But if I can have an eink phone, with all the authentication apps I need to connect to work and do banking (and maps and Spotify), I'll drop that iPhone that is frying the brains of my kids instantly.
The Boox Palma doesn't have a cell connection but is a phone-sized Android based e-paper tablet.