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Post by manuelmoreale »

rchaud wrote: post #341
jraph wrote: post #183

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A Windows update restarted a critical server automatically. A core service is blocked from starting by a Candy Crush ad installed by the update. The Crandy Crush ad is somehow expecting a Copilot key to be pressed on the keyboard to let the system keep going. MS engineers are waiting for an online purchase of a new $400 keyboard with the Copilot key to complete and planning to run to the data center to plug the keybo…

Update: the payment gateway is Stripe, which is not processing any transactions associated with the MS account. A developer has posted the issue to HN in the hope that a Stripe employee will see it and escalate the issue. /s

I love that you had to include the /s because someone might actually believe that is indeed the case. What a bizarre world we live in.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by _heimdall »

Timshel wrote: post #273
_heimdall wrote: post #223

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My point was just that resilience still depends on how a system is distributed and what else is done. Distribution alone doesn't really make a difference, though pairing it was redundancy and failovers is going to get pretty far. The case of mastodon.social is really a question of whether the value there is the network and protocol itself or the user created content posted there. If its the user content, the value is…

Yes there is the question of network vs data :). And as you mention while some data end-up being distributed with Activity Pub the protocol is not made to allow restoration. One point I find interesting too is that distributed network often allows more agency to external actors. For example if you believe that the resiliency of the mastodon.social instance is not enough for you then you can decide to host you own ser…

That's really where ActivityPub starts to rub me the wrong way. Server admins really need moderation power since everything is hosted on their hardware, but it also is a poison pill for decentralization.

I can host my own server and make my own rules, but every other admin can just ban my instance.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by sharpshadow »

rvnx wrote: post #186
deutschepost wrote: post #165

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I‘m pretty sure it was always just a proxy for bing. Just stripping away the Microsoft tracking. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925

If you use Bing: You have "only" Microsoft Bing tracking you If you use DuckDuckGo: Now, you have "Yahoo Ads" instead of Microsoft Ads, but these ads, they are in fact Microsoft Ads, except sold via Yahoo. In front of these Yahoo Ads, DuckDuckGo actually adds its own click-through tracker. Now you have DDG, Yahoo and Microsoft tracking you. Bonus point if you click on an Amazon affiliate link, because in that case, t…

This makes sense, I was sceptical with the fast pace DDG had in the search market.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by mdaniel »

berkes wrote: post #356
gpvos wrote: post #337

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Took them several hours to put that message there though.

Often the case with US-based companies that have outages during "office hours in Europe". We, europeans see it going down. Communication on why, how and ETAs only appear at the start of the US day.

This take implies there is no on-call rotation at DDG, which I find suspicious

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by Minor49er »

niutech wrote: post #316
devit wrote: post #253

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They probably start with Bing results and do custom filtering, ranking and presentation, so without the initial Bing results they can't do anything.

So basically DDG is the wrapper for Bing Search, not an "independent" search company as they claim.

The industry term is "whitelabeling"

Sometimes it pays to pretend

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by throwaway290 »

ohthatsnotright wrote: post #339
throwaway290 wrote: post #139

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It's not surprising given how much better it is than everything else

I've been migrating away from google with their recent changes because it's gotten less and less useful in getting me the answers. DDG has done better, but it's not as good as Google used to be before it was taken over by MBAs.

DDG is Bing. Using DDG is supporting Microsoft. Even if Bing was better than Google I wouldn't do it on principle

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Post by HeckFeck »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #230
FerretFred wrote: post #221

> "Update 1: Microsoft has confirmed an issue where users may be unable to access the Microsoft Copilot service" So not all bad then?!

I'm still unsure of what MS Copilot is. For the longest time I thought it was GH Cp because of the obvious association, but it's not. I'm assuming it's some bunk ass Bing "AI" assisted search? I truly think MS is the perfect example of a moat experiencing a drought. Unfortunately, money can't buy rain, it can only pump water from other sources. This never works.

No no, you're confusing it with Copilot Series X, it leverages the latest Windows screen capture technology on your Xbox One X Series One and is intended to help speedrunners up their game, while also helping connect everyone else with relevant products and services from over 9000 partners.
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