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Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by bigiain »

steveBK123 wrote: post #116
crazygringo wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. This is utterly baffling to me. OpenAI is trying to demonstrate how it's so trustworthy, and is always talking about how important it is to be trustworthy when it comes to something as important and potentially dangerous as AI. And then they do something like this...?? I literally don't understand how they could be this dumb. Do they not have a lawyer? Or do they not tell their corporate counsel what they'…

Also retired the entire safety team in the same weak too, lol.

I wonder howe much their anti disparagement clauses are about covering up how this went down internally?

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by fakedang »

anon373839 wrote: post #62

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

Please tell us about the time you most successfully hacked some (non-computer) system to your advantage.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by ojbyrne »

iosjunkie wrote: post #169
npunt wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people cheat on (relatively) small things, it's usually an indication they'll cheat on big things too

I would love to see the providence of their training data.

I think you want the word “provenance.”

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by andrewinardeer »

nickthegreek wrote: post #102
anon373839 wrote: post #62

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

This statement from scarlet really changed my perspective. I use and loved the Sky voice and I did feel it sounded a little like her, but moreover it was the best of their voice offerings. I was mad when they removed it. But now I’m mad it was ever there to begin with. This timeline makes it clear that this wasn’t a coincidence and maybe not even a hiring of an impressionist (which is where things get a little more w…

I thought it sounded like Jodie Foster.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by jprete »

threatofrain wrote: post #148
gedy wrote: post #137

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Normally I'd agree if this were some vague "artist style", but this was clearly an attempt to duplicate a living person, a media celebrity no less.

Is this different from the various videos of the Harry Potter actors doing comedic high fashion ads? Because those were very well received. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipuqLy87-3A

Those are parodies and not meant at any point for you to believe the actual Harry Potter actors were involved.

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Post by dragonwriter »

rvz wrote: post #189
anon373839 wrote: post #62

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

Almost as if they knew that they cloned her voice without her permission. Don't hear any arguments on how this is fair-use. (It isn't) Why? Because everyone (including OpenAI) knows it clearly isn't fair-use even after pulling the voice.

> Don't here any arguments on how this is fair-use.

> Why?

Because it's a right of personality issue, not copyright, and there is no fair use exception (the definition of the tort is already limited to a subset of commercial use which makes the Constitutional limitation that fair use addresses in copyright not relevant, and there is no statutory fair use exception to liability under the right of personality.)

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by nwoli »

npunt wrote: post #129
anon373839 wrote: post #62

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

When people cheat on (relatively) small things, it's usually an indication they'll cheat on big things too

OpenAI only hires and is built on the culture that data and copyright is somehow free for the taking, otherwise they would have zero ways to make a profit or “build agi”

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by dralley »

emmp wrote: post #74
infotainment wrote: post #38

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It’s definitely sketchy (classic OpenAI) But my question is: is what they did actually illegal? Can someone copyright their own voice?

There are two similar famous cases I know offhand. Probably there are more. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co . Bette Middler successfully sued Ford for impersonating her likeness in a commercial. Then also: https://casetext.com/case/waits-v-frito-lay-inc Tom Waits successfully sued Frito Lay for using an imitator without approval in a radio commercial. The key seems to be that if someone is fam…

What if the imitator is clearly an imitator? e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvF0l8RUGQ8

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Post by hooloovoo_zoo »

emmp wrote: post #74
infotainment wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s definitely sketchy (classic OpenAI) But my question is: is what they did actually illegal? Can someone copyright their own voice?

There are two similar famous cases I know offhand. Probably there are more. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co . Bette Middler successfully sued Ford for impersonating her likeness in a commercial. Then also: https://casetext.com/case/waits-v-frito-lay-inc Tom Waits successfully sued Frito Lay for using an imitator without approval in a radio commercial. The key seems to be that if someone is fam…

Both cases seem to have also borrowed from the artists’ songs too however. That could perhaps make a difference.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by laborcontract »

christina97 wrote: post #94
laborcontract wrote: post #48

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You are on "Hacker News", surely it's not that much of a surprise?

It’s a different type of hacking. This was about hacking a system for one’s advantage, not the computer type of hacking.

I always interpreted the hacker in HN as a spirit, irrespective of vocation.
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