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Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, this confirms that OpenAI have been shooting from the hip, not that we needed much confirmation. The fact that they repeatedly tried to hire Johansson, then went ahead and made a soundalike while explicitly describing that they were trying to make it be like her voice in the movie … is pretty bad for them.

I think this is such a massively trivial detail it’s hard to draw broader conclusions from it

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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> 4. Naughtiness > Though the most successful founders are usually good people, they tend to have a piratical gleam in their eye. They're not Goody Two-Shoes type good. Morally, they care about getting the big questions right, but not about observing proprieties. That's why I'd use the word naughty rather than evil. They delight in breaking rules, but not rules that matter. This quality may be redundant though; it ma…

This quote actually makes me disgusted. I don't think this is a quality to encourage on, especially since despite the tone it reads more as abuse.

personally I think it completely sums up silicon valley perfectly

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

#93

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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This quote actually makes me disgusted. I don't think this is a quality to encourage on, especially since despite the tone it reads more as abuse.

You are on "Hacker News", surely it's not that much of a surprise?

It’s a different type of hacking. This was about hacking a system for one’s advantage, not the computer type of hacking.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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I think it’s interesting that Johansson chose to forgo substantial royalties and collaboration potential But it must feel pretty fucking weird and violatory when you spend your entire life thinking about how you are going to deliver certain lines and that’s your creative Body of work, and then for someone to just take that Voice and apply it to any random text that can be generated? I get why she wouldn’t want to let…

SJ is a major character in like 5 of the top grossing movies of all time. The royalties from her voice being used by ChatGPT would be meaningless to her

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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It’s definitely sketchy (classic OpenAI) But my question is: is what they did actually illegal? Can someone copyright their own voice?

Yes, absolutely illegal. You don't need to copyright anything, you simply own the rights your own likeness -- your visual appearance and your voice. A company can't take a photo from your Facebook and plaster it across an advertisement for their product without you giving them the rights to do that. And if you're a known public figure, this includes lookalikes and soundalikes as well. You can't hire a ScarJo imperson…

But is that Scarlett Jo or Producers of Her that own the copyright?

If you imitate Darth Vader, I don't think James Earl Jones has as much case for likeliness as Star Wars franchise

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Why do I feel like Sam's 'her' tweet pretty much gave Scarlett Johansson's legal counsel all the ammo they needed lol.

It probably made things worse, but the fact that they reached out to her to use her voice and she explicitly refused would be sufficient ammo I feel. (Not a lawyer of course). Of course, Twitter continues to bring people with big egos to their own downfall.

Not to mention that it matches up pretty much exactly with the Bette Midler and Tom Waits cases, where courts ruled against companies using soundalikes after the person they really wanted turned them down. Doesn't matter if they hired a soundalike actress rather than clone her voice, it still violates her rights.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

#100

Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

Would love to see this get far enough for discovery to see how that all played out behind the scenes.
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