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Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

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Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

#32
I wish there could be added a signature to GDPR export, that can be validated.

This way you can transfer data to a new platform and the new platform can trust that the information is not manipulated.

Let me and a couple of friends move out of Facebook and bring all our prior interactions with us.

(The signature should be invalid after example one month to avoid the value of data breaches, with periodic signature key release)

Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

#33

Very valid points. In my view they miss the mark however. Blaming Apple for optimizing their platform model isn’t the problem, it became a problem. Imagine 2007 and the following years already with the EU act in full effect. AppStore would be dead on arrival. In my view Apple’s AppStore went from feature some people have when they buy a smartphone to necessity. 2007 and even 2016 was a perfect time to opt for a live…

> Some often overlooked fact is, that Apple decides at will who is allowed to publish apps via AppStore and who is not.

Overlooked? It's the key issue the EU is bringing up around appstores isn't it?

Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

#34
I’m an Apple fan and I keep hundreds of thousands of dollars in Apple stock, and I still hope we at least get side loading out of all this. I do not believe this would be in any way detrimental to Apple - most people don’t give a shit. But for me and others like me it’d be pretty neat to do on my iPhone and iPad what I can already do on my Mac: install my own software that is not arbitrarily time limited.

Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

#35
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple should play their Trump card and threaten to pull out of the EU. The EU would blink first because the public backlash would be career ending.

You are taking the side of a 3 trillion dollor consumer goods company's bottom line, rather than 500 million people's right to choice and privacy. You do realise that, don't you?

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Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

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post #26

Pay or Okay is reasonable to some extent (depending on the amount). Do European countries hold themselves and the local companies to the same standards, respect their citizens and their privacy rights? I remember a French institution could not buy our product, because they had a contract with a local manufacturer. They explained to us that they are obliged to buy from this company, or otherwise go through a complicat…

> I remember a French institution could not buy our product, because they had a contract with a local manufacturer. I doubt this is a EU thing. It's due to exclusive contracts/licenses. This happens everywhere?

It sounds a lot like like approved suppliers too, which is common in large orgs.

Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

#38
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple should play their Trump card and threaten to pull out of the EU. The EU would blink first because the public backlash would be career ending.

You are taking the side of a 3 trillion dollor consumer goods company's bottom line, rather than 500 million people's right to choice and privacy. You do realise that, don't you?

It's governments vs corporations; the 500 million people aren't actually being represented in either camp. Being a subject is little better than being a consumer, and in some ways much worse.

Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

#39
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AppStore would be dead on arrival. Yes, exactly! That's the point. The mobile ecosystem would look heaps better without it.

We have the world without it available for inspection. The Android ecosystem is a shambling mess compared to the quality that is availabe in the Apple Playstore. It does look heaps better on many dimensions.

I worked for a guy who made a fortune on an iOS app named "Ugly Meter".

Any difference in quality stems from the fact that Apple product users are more willing to pay for things. The free apps are equally bad in both stores.

Meanwhile Android allows for alternative stores like F-Droid, where you won't see the usual spam, as the apps are FOSS.

Re: Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead"

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post #29

I'm in favour of opening up platforms and interoperability, but not the GDPR. Maybe in this case, "an enemy is an enemy of a friend".

I feel the same. The GDPR appears super difficult to comply with, even impossible in some cases, and very restricting. I just hope negative effects of (in my opinion) overregulation wont hurt the EUs economy too badly, but that wont be visible for another couple of decades

The GDPR is trivial to comply with: don't track (let alone process) personal data.
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