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Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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It does feel mad that we outsource so much of our national infrastructure maintenance to China. When/if they invade Taiwan, how are we going to do anything when they have that sort of leverage over us? It was bad enough with Russias gas

Well US is not dependent on anyone for her Energy needs. Unlike China. Its quite vulnerable on that front if a few pipelines blow up ala nord stream.

This is also why the US has such a large presence in the middle east.

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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post #20

> I know it sounds devastating, but you have to get used to the fact that a new era has begun. The pre-war era. It is madness that we're in a position where this can be baldly stated by a PM and there has been no "huh?" moment when people stop and assess how badly the broader West's military, economic and diplomatic efforts have failed over the last 30 odd years. Possibly longer. I wasn't expecting to see land wars i…

What kind of diplomacy would have prevented Russia from invading its neighbours?

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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When I recently asked some air traffic controllers what would happen if GPS became unavailable, it was grumpy sounds all around. I understand a scramble to vector everything to land everything would result in a very busy day for them, because suddenly most planes would be unable to safely navigate, and thus effectively grounded. Cutting the budget for ground based navaids is nuts, in my opinion.

I was under the impression that GPS was a non-critical asset for aviation, ie. any plane can safely stop using it at any given time and keep flying with VOR and other navigational aids.

This article [1] introduces some of the scenarios where pilots rely on GPS only:

* GPS-based waypoints to optimize routing based on favorable winds and more direct routes even in the absence of VORs.

* RNAV departures and arrivals that rely "solely on GPS rather than radio-based [...] aids" with more precise spacing and hence higher capacity.

* GPS used as a substitute of ILS for some approaches e.g. in mountainous areas.

[1] https://simpleflying.com/gps-in-aviation-pilots-guide/

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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When I recently asked some air traffic controllers what would happen if GPS became unavailable, it was grumpy sounds all around. I understand a scramble to vector everything to land everything would result in a very busy day for them, because suddenly most planes would be unable to safely navigate, and thus effectively grounded. Cutting the budget for ground based navaids is nuts, in my opinion.

They do have other ways to navigate. Like land-based beacons (VORs).

Unfortunately these are being used less and less and even deprecated in favour of GPS waypoints. Even when they are still around the pilots have less experience with them because they no longer use them every day.

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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post #20

> I know it sounds devastating, but you have to get used to the fact that a new era has begun. The pre-war era. It is madness that we're in a position where this can be baldly stated by a PM and there has been no "huh?" moment when people stop and assess how badly the broader West's military, economic and diplomatic efforts have failed over the last 30 odd years. Possibly longer. I wasn't expecting to see land wars i…

What kind of diplomacy would have prevented Russia from invading its neighbours?

Picking on Ukraine, the US not having a policy of signing new people up to the anti-Russia military alliance every few years [0] seems like low hanging fruit. Or not working to integrate their intelligence with the CIA [1] for the last decade. I don't speak German but apparently Merkle said that we weren't negotiating in good faith to keep the peace either [2].

These are the sort of thing I suspect Russia would see as escalatory. I certainly do. A better diplomatic policy would have been to encourage neutrality. The western powers weren't going out of their way to make sure that the situation stayed peaceful. We could have treated this as the Russian equivalent of the US invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq and let it go away.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/23/ukraine-cia-...

[2] https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/77139/what-posi...

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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post #20

> I know it sounds devastating, but you have to get used to the fact that a new era has begun. The pre-war era. It is madness that we're in a position where this can be baldly stated by a PM and there has been no "huh?" moment when people stop and assess how badly the broader West's military, economic and diplomatic efforts have failed over the last 30 odd years. Possibly longer. I wasn't expecting to see land wars i…

I mean you're either in a war period or a pre-war period ...

Although yeah the whole propping up non-democracies because they have cheap labor or cheap materials for decades does seem to have been a poor decision in the long run.

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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post #20

> I know it sounds devastating, but you have to get used to the fact that a new era has begun. The pre-war era. It is madness that we're in a position where this can be baldly stated by a PM and there has been no "huh?" moment when people stop and assess how badly the broader West's military, economic and diplomatic efforts have failed over the last 30 odd years. Possibly longer. I wasn't expecting to see land wars i…

What kind of diplomacy would have prevented Russia from invading its neighbours?

The gunboat kind.

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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post #23

When I recently asked some air traffic controllers what would happen if GPS became unavailable, it was grumpy sounds all around. I understand a scramble to vector everything to land everything would result in a very busy day for them, because suddenly most planes would be unable to safely navigate, and thus effectively grounded. Cutting the budget for ground based navaids is nuts, in my opinion.

I was under the impression that GPS was a non-critical asset for aviation, ie. any plane can safely stop using it at any given time and keep flying with VOR and other navigational aids. This article [1] introduces some of the scenarios where pilots rely on GPS only: * GPS-based waypoints to optimize routing based on favorable winds and more direct routes even in the absence of VORs. * RNAV departures and arrivals tha…

I would assume its not 'safety critical' but 'business critical', disabling GPS would mean slowing down departures / arrivals which means the airport losing money. I recall there being a similar issue with Lufthansa and SFO causing planes to get rerouted to oakland.

Re: Cyber Security: A pre-war reality check

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When I recently asked some air traffic controllers what would happen if GPS became unavailable, it was grumpy sounds all around. I understand a scramble to vector everything to land everything would result in a very busy day for them, because suddenly most planes would be unable to safely navigate, and thus effectively grounded. Cutting the budget for ground based navaids is nuts, in my opinion.

GPS is now often unavailable in eastern/northern parts of Europe due to Russian jamming. Some smaller airfields already had to update their systems not to rely only on GPS.
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