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Post by sseagull »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #371
nonrandomstring wrote: post #274

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> I wish more people would work on noise pollution Absolutely agree. It's one of the most insidious kinds of pollution that has big effects on mental and cardio-vascular health, and is accumulative. Everything from aircraft, to emergency vehicle sirens, to construction and poor housing, is slowly killing people. In Europe we've actually made big leaps forward with regulation, building standards for isolation, and aba…

Contrast with John von Neumann, who "could not work without some noise or at least the possibility of noise. Some of his best work was done in crowded railroad stations and airports, trains, planes, ships, hotel lobbies, lively cocktail parties or even among a bunch of shrieking very minor minors whooping it up."

I think this is the classic introvert/extravert axis.

Introverts are chronically overstimulated, and seek to reduce stimulation.

Extraverts are under-stimulated, and therefore work better with even more stimulation.

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Post by kredd »

wolverine876 wrote: post #410
highcountess wrote: post #234

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Many things are covered in graffiti in Western Europe. It always baffles me that people are in such a defeated state of mind that graffiti is just simply accepted and seemingly nothing is done about it.

> It always baffles me that people are in such a defeated state of mind that graffiti is just simply accepted and seemingly nothing is done about it. As usual, the answer is found by examining assumptions: 1) It's somehow bad, and 2) People strongly want it removed. (And by accepting those two assumptions as true, and it's also true that the street art remains, that argument infers despair.) I and many people don't t…

You're right, but let’s be honest, most of “spray painting” is just tagging. Even as a kid I found big spray painted murals “cool”, but thought tagged places as “ran down”. I met a guy a few years ago who told stories about spray painting large murals in underpasses, but gave up when others started to tag over his creations.

I obviously don’t have a solution to this, but it’s hard to argue how spray painting is net good even for kids.

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Post by phyzome »

umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9
lqet wrote: post #4

> a transparent noise barrier Most rail noise barriers in Germany are completely covered in graffiti [0], so I wouldn't expect them to remain transparent for more than a few weeks. [0] https://ga.de/imgs/93/8/5/9/3/0/9/1/9/tok_8596521c60eeaa53ee...

If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

Reminder: You're replying to a comment about graffiti potentially covering something that's supposed to be transparent.

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Post by cataphract »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #274
earthnail wrote: post #185

I love this. I read so much criticism here, but noise pollution is a main issue when it comes to railroads in residential zones. Yes, punctuality is an issue with Deutsche Bahn. No, this doesn’t fix that instantly. But as an organisation you can work on two things at the same time. This invention is spectacular. I wish more people would work on noise pollution. It makes a huge difference.

> I wish more people would work on noise pollution Absolutely agree. It's one of the most insidious kinds of pollution that has big effects on mental and cardio-vascular health, and is accumulative. Everything from aircraft, to emergency vehicle sirens, to construction and poor housing, is slowly killing people. In Europe we've actually made big leaps forward with regulation, building standards for isolation, and aba…

Unfortunately, where I live, more and more people have dogs. It's now a risky proposition to live in an apartment in a closed city block, because it's almost guaranteed that someone will leave a dog barking outside for hours.

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Post by popol12 »

infecto wrote: post #360
lukan wrote: post #278

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Noise reduction with trains is probably best done with improving the trains. I live next to a frequent trainline, so I can say: There are modern long electric passenger trains, that barely make a noise at all. And then there are old freight trains, that can be heard from miles away. Since I doubt this noise barrier will be placed everywhere except at some very special key areas, I rather want the Bahn to focus on bet…

What evidence other than your anecdotal evidence that a lightweight passenger train creates less noises then a heavy load freight? I am sure there are some differences in regards to design and age but wouldn't you imagine the majority of the difference is in weight? Passenger trains weigh nothing.

Just adding my own data: I’ve been living next to a train station for a few years now, I’d say that freight is insanely more noisy than passenger trains, 100% of the time. I live in France btw, so it’s all electric trains.

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Post by adrianN »

b112 wrote: post #376
adrianN wrote: post #373

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You only have to build them were tracks are close to homes.

Yet up-post said "miles" from homes. That means a lot more tha just close to houses. It means miles from towns.

„Can be heard“ is not the problem we’re trying to fix, and no reasonable amount of engineering can fix that . Maybe if you converted everything to maglev and limited speeds to 20mph.

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Post by lukan »

adrianN wrote: post #436
b112 wrote: post #376

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Yet up-post said "miles" from homes. That means a lot more tha just close to houses. It means miles from towns.

„Can be heard“ is not the problem we’re trying to fix, and no reasonable amount of engineering can fix that . Maybe if you converted everything to maglev and limited speeds to 20mph.

If something can be heard miles away, it usually means it is very loud close by. And this could be reduced.

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Post by dgfitz »

Vinnl wrote: post #380
highcountess wrote: post #234

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Many things are covered in graffiti in Western Europe. It always baffles me that people are in such a defeated state of mind that graffiti is just simply accepted and seemingly nothing is done about it.

At some point someone made me realise that almost anything that can be said about graffiti can also be said about outdoor advertising.

One is vandalism, which is a crime, and one is not.

There, we have at least one delta now.

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