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Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Honestly, I just don't get this view - moderation provides clear, obvious value. You know what, we can have an experiment. I'll provide a list of things that are handled by moderation, and you pick which ones you think should be moderated. * Spam * CSAM * Gore * Porn * Doxxing * Threats * Libel * Personal attacks * Racism/other 'isms' * Flamebait/ragebait * Advertisements * Insults * Duplicates * Off-topic * Low-effo…

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Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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> Hard to follow someone, hard to chat Maybe that's one reason why you have such great quality time here. I think the problem about social medias is that people have flaws, and social medias puts a great focus on individual people, exposing their good side as well as flawed side. But, most people are not well-trained to handle such level of influence (including being influenced as well as to influence the others), an…

Yes, but… there were a half-dozen people here whose comments I alway enjoyed for the deep and nuanced perspective. I haven’t seen them in a few years now, sadly. Maybe some light-touch people focus would be a nice compromise. Like, highlight the discussion where my favorite people participate? That could avoid the bandwagon effect. I dunno, maybe not.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17717598

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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I'd actually really love the ability to follow just the 'Show HN's of a particular user, for those who consistently post interesting projects. It would at least lessen the FOMO causing me to check HN a little too often.

I’d at least like to be able to choose colors for posters, and auto-collapse some. There are a few very-active posters who basically never post anything aside from confident but poorly-informed flamebait on a wide range of topics (but “HN nice” enough that they don’t get moderated for it, though their threads often get nasty). Making it easier to spot and ignore them would solve most of my problems with HN’s comment…

There are a few users like this, but the best way is to bring these to the attention of moderators and leave it at that.

For a list of good commenters, consider using https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17717598

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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What’s to stop a bunch of westerners from invading this app and just posting on it in English?

What's to stop a bunch of chinese from invading Hacker News and just posting on it in Chinese?

If it weren't such an insanely difficult language to learn, it might be interesting to be part of Chinese tech discussions.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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I’m 21, have been following HN since I was 18, from Asia. HN is perfectly accessible for younger folks, if you make it more accessible for casual unserious people, you’ll start getting more and more casual and unserious conversation. The UI is a good filter to remove folks who need hipster UI to just use a platform. HN is fine.

There is hipster UI, and there's not handling pagination, having buttons bordering on the unusable on mobile, commenting requiring a new page to be opened, etc.

Come on, the UI is pretty usable even in mobile. It's a lot faster than most bloated social media apps.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Every guild or community should have a high quality discussion forum like hackernews. But assuming you can translate the learnings from Hackernews to another platform, how exactly would you ensure high quality?

As others have pointed out, the answer is moderation. High quality, diligent moderation. Reddit is the ultimate proof of this. A highly moderated, focused subreddit can be a wonderful place. A loosely moderated subreddit quickly devolves into memes and lowest common denominator posts, which is totally fine for specific subjects, or even meme-based subreddits for a given topic. If you want quality, you have to invest…

I really dislike forums nowadays but I'm part of a /r/$car subreddit along with the $carforum.com and there's no comparison between using reddit vs the forum for quality data and not losing things to the ether.

There are so many subreddits where great posts get lost, subreddits that don't allow commenting on old posts, being notified when old posts are updated, things like that. $Carforum has tags I can follow, just so many QOL features that reddit will never implement. You can sort subreddit by top, google search for something specific but all of those QOL improvements forums have lead to such better growing conversations. I guess reddit has flairs now that I think about it but I rarely see that used as a search mechanism.

With that said I absolutely hate having to sign up for forums. If they don't have a google/apple/whatever auth I can use there's a 70%+ chance I'll never make an account. And even then it's a consideration because you never know if after creating an account with an SSO you'll next be asked 20 questions, be limited from posting for X amount of time/karma (which does happen on reddit but less frequently IME).

Subreddits need .. sub-sub reddits or something similar. /r/$car/wheels, /r/$car/engine..

Also, as cliche as it is, I have never had a worse experience with moderators than on reddit. I used to be an ircop on efnet and none of us were anywhere near as rude and quick to assume the worst as my reddit experience.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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As others have pointed out, the answer is moderation. High quality, diligent moderation. Reddit is the ultimate proof of this. A highly moderated, focused subreddit can be a wonderful place. A loosely moderated subreddit quickly devolves into memes and lowest common denominator posts, which is totally fine for specific subjects, or even meme-based subreddits for a given topic. If you want quality, you have to invest…

Moderation kills discussion. Hacker News and 4chan are lightly moderated and that’s why they’ve survived for a decade plus.

HN makes it look casual but it has a very active and diligent moderation and a whole automated system to detect spams, self promotion, hateful comments...

The basic design is on purpose, but the backend doesn't match the front.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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Hacker news is great but it's not a social platform. Hard to follow someone, hard to chat, hard to form groups discussing various topics. It would be nice to have features of hacker news and reddit combined.

> Hard to follow someone, hard to chat Maybe that's one reason why you have such great quality time here. I think the problem about social medias is that people have flaws, and social medias puts a great focus on individual people, exposing their good side as well as flawed side. But, most people are not well-trained to handle such level of influence (including being influenced as well as to influence the others), an…

Indeed, having focus on content instead of people make things much more civil organically.

Re: Jike: The obscure social media app beloved by China's tech scene

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I believe the site is: http://okjike.com/ (?) I tried signing up - couldn’t get pass the sms verification - I am in some European country.

I made it through with my american phone number. I went through the apple account flow on the app instead of the website though.
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