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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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> a transparent noise barrier Most rail noise barriers in Germany are completely covered in graffiti [0], so I wouldn't expect them to remain transparent for more than a few weeks. [0] https://ga.de/imgs/93/8/5/9/3/0/9/1/9/tok_8596521c60eeaa53ee...

The article ends "the potential for faster planning approvals and reduced objection rates from communities, ultimately speeding up project completions." so their goal might be to build faster regardless how they'll look soon after.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

#52
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post #28

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The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. And when it's on publicly owned property, who pays for that removal? The public, of course. If, for example, a train is the target of graffiti, it will often need to be taken out of service. This, then, results in a degraded service to the travelling public. Furthermore, graffiti artists often put themselves in dangerous situations…

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In a democratic society, if citizens are particularly concerned about the aesthetics of public property, they can make their views known to the relevant authorities and elected representatives, and it could even become an election issue. I think that's far better than citizens fighting with paint.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

#53
Lots of negative comments on this. I, for one, am glad to see work that supports better transport infrastructure while not being insanely ugly like a lot of transport infrastructure is (like the giant concrete birds nests of highways in US cities). I want to live in cities that are visually appealing.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

#54
This article goes into a little more detail: https://www.heise.de/en/news/MetaWindow-Laermschutz-an-Gleis...

And the PhotonicVibes site is here: https://phononic-vibes.com/metawindow-for-railway/

Here is a demo video for a meta material made by them: https://youtu.be/NElK8qKRrBU?si=CfBjUESlu_XUvnn_

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Graffiti makes world more beautiful the same way as ads do. It is a vandalism and you shouldn't normalize it.

https://w0.peakpx.com/wallpaper/697/794/HD-wallpaper-graffit... You don't get to tell me what I find beautiful.

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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

#56
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. And when it's on publicly owned property, who pays for that removal? The public, of course. If, for example, a train is the target of graffiti, it will often need to be taken out of service. This, then, results in a degraded service to the travelling public. Furthermore, graffiti artists often put themselves in dangerous situations…

> The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. The cost incurred here is a choice the owner makes when they disagree with the aesthetics of the graffiti.

But that cost is not paid by the person creating the graffiti. The owner has a cost forced on them.

The aesthetic argument here is trying to validate a violent act. A lot of graffiti is beautiful, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

#57
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When graffiti is done on public owned objects or walls, it's impact is merely aesthetic. Not like a bank robbery. And I'd rather see graffiti, even if I find some ugly, than ads all over. And there's way more public ads anywhere than graffiti. I think local urban expressions like stickers and graffiti is pretty cool. The mainstream prefers ads I guess.

They're very cool until it's your apartment or commercial building, and you have to clean it up - because let's face it, for every clever graffiti, there are fifty that are just tags, swear words, or worse. And your framing is odd - can you only dislike one of these things? Graffiti or ads? There are successful movements to rid cities and scenic areas of ads, or to tone them down.

I solved this problem by contracting an artist to put a painting on the wall of my house. Sprayers are artists, they won't paint over it.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Implying that graffiti is as bad as bank robberies is wild.

Dunno dude. If my bank is robbed there’s no real impact to me - all the money is insured. If someone graffitis my house then it looks horrible and I have to spend time and money cleaning it up.

How many times has that happened to you?
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