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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by ponector »

2024throwaway wrote: post #30
germinator wrote: post #20

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They're very cool until it's your apartment or commercial building, and you have to clean it up - because let's face it, for every clever graffiti, there are fifty that are just tags, swear words, or worse. And your framing is odd - can you only dislike one of these things? Graffiti or ads? There are successful movements to rid cities and scenic areas of ads, or to tone them down.

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Graffiti makes world more beautiful the same way as ads do.

It is a vandalism and you shouldn't normalize it.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by tshaddox »

flemhans wrote: post #13
umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9

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If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

I can also start a subculture about competing for the best type of bank robberies, doesn't make bank robberies a nice thing to do. But yeah fascinating

But in a bank robbery you’re taking someone else’s property no no no do not have a moral philosophy argument on HN in conclusion, that’s why a Georgist land value tax is one of the most economically efficient forms of taxation.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by tshaddox »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #40
Hugsun wrote: post #19

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Implying that graffiti is as bad as bank robberies is wild.

Dunno dude. If my bank is robbed there’s no real impact to me - all the money is insured. If someone graffitis my house then it looks horrible and I have to spend time and money cleaning it up.

Most houses in Germany are not covered in graffiti.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by 2024throwaway »

ponector wrote: post #41
2024throwaway wrote: post #30

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Graffiti makes world more beautiful the same way as ads do. It is a vandalism and you shouldn't normalize it.

https://w0.peakpx.com/wallpaper/697/794/HD-wallpaper-graffit...

You don't get to tell me what I find beautiful.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

ponector wrote: post #41
2024throwaway wrote: post #30

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Graffiti makes world more beautiful the same way as ads do. It is a vandalism and you shouldn't normalize it.

Graffiti is about 20 to 30 times better than ads brother.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by vasco »

ldjb wrote: post #28
vasco wrote: post #16

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When graffiti is done on public owned objects or walls, it's impact is merely aesthetic. Not like a bank robbery. And I'd rather see graffiti, even if I find some ugly, than ads all over. And there's way more public ads anywhere than graffiti. I think local urban expressions like stickers and graffiti is pretty cool. The mainstream prefers ads I guess.

The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. And when it's on publicly owned property, who pays for that removal? The public, of course. If, for example, a train is the target of graffiti, it will often need to be taken out of service. This, then, results in a degraded service to the travelling public. Furthermore, graffiti artists often put themselves in dangerous situations…

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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by ldjb »

thuuuomas wrote: post #34
ldjb wrote: post #28

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The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. And when it's on publicly owned property, who pays for that removal? The public, of course. If, for example, a train is the target of graffiti, it will often need to be taken out of service. This, then, results in a degraded service to the travelling public. Furthermore, graffiti artists often put themselves in dangerous situations…

> The impact isn't merely aesthetic. For one thing, it can be costly to remove graffiti. The cost incurred here is a choice the owner makes when they disagree with the aesthetics of the graffiti.

We're talking about public property here. Many authorities have a 'no tolerance' approach to graffiti. Even if it looks nice, it will be removed. There is a belief that removing graffiti quickly discourages it. If graffiti artists find that their work won't last long, they may be discouraged from doing it in the first place. Aesthetics doesn't really come into it.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by vasco »

ponector wrote: post #41
2024throwaway wrote: post #30

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Graffiti makes world more beautiful the same way as ads do. It is a vandalism and you shouldn't normalize it.

I've normalized it all my life and will keep doing it, art should be around us and bring interestingness to public spaces. People like you would rather walk around in the equivalent of a hospital 24/7 and you currently have the law on your side but it doesn't mean you're right.
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