Live data from Hacker News

EU opens child safety probes of Facebook and Instagram, citing addictive design

techcrunch.com

101–103 of 103 posts

Re: EU opens child safety probes of Facebook and Instagram, citing addictive design

#101
post #46
post #3

I wonder if we at as a society at some point will decide that any "flow which which constantly provides short feedback loop high and lows with no substantial user interaction between" should be treated like gambling. I I mean AFIK they do affect the brain in similar ways as gambling and seem to have the potential to do quite a bit of damage for the development of young children, and at least in case of Ticktock in co…

I don't think I would agree with banning addictive social media platforms, but I would like to see them heavily regulated, meaning: * Opt-in to "engagement algorithms". By default, people should only be seeing things that they're explicitly following and in some sort of neutral way (e.g. sorted by date). * "Engagement algorithms" need to be transparent. It should be clear why I'm seeing what I'm seeing. This implies…

I should have been more clear.

My idea was to tread it like gambling (and to be more clear that doesn't mean classify it as gambling).

Which in case of the country I'm from means it's not allowed for children, and in general with some subtle exceptions neither for teenagers.

But is allowed for adults.

But is also regulated quite a bit when used by adults (e.g. regarding to transparency, advertisements, age verification and other topics).

That still would kill Ticktok and YT Shorts their main mode of operation had been to capture new users in the teen and child age range and then beet on them staying around.

Re: EU opens child safety probes of Facebook and Instagram, citing addictive design

#102

I don't get how exactly this is measured though. For many app projects, keeping the user in the app is obviously one of the most important metrics, especially for free apps (hence more ads to show and more money to make). Many UX patterns are fine tuned to keep people in more, which is perfectly understandable as the primary goal is to keep the user in. Now, who defines "addictive" using which aspect? And even if it…

Nope.

We ban cocaine and other super addictive drugs. Education is needed but it's not sufficient.

Re: EU opens child safety probes of Facebook and Instagram, citing addictive design

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American who travels to Europe from time to time, I find the prevalence of smoking in Europe to be what I used to experience as a kid in the states in the 90s. I always wonder why that is when I visit.

Do European countries require printing pictures of diseased lungs on the side of cigarette boxes? Because if not that might have something to do with it. Nudging is quite effective at influencing average behavior.

I see these all over in Italy and Germany. Still confused by the youthful smokers.
Post reply on HN