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Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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Apple are very good about not making this kind of thing available to apps that don't have an explicit reason to need it.

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I stand by my statement. Have you seen the limits placed on VisionOS apps regarding eye tracking data?

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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Eye tracking is absolutely an accessibility feature. Just because you don't need it, and it can be abused, does not mean it isn't an absolutely game changing feature for some people.

He didn't say it wasn't an accessibility feature, just that it was disguised as one. Just because it's not a game changing feature for some people, doesn't mean its primary function isn't advertising.

Something being disguised as something explicitly implies it is not that thing.

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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The red color filter for outside when trying to preserve night vision is a great tip. Some apps have this built-in but much better to have the OS change it everywhere. Recommend creating a Shortcut to toggle this setting.

> Recommend creating a Shortcut to toggle this setting. Huh? It's not built-in? Android (or at least Moto) has it for years, auto enable on the schedule or the sunrise/sunset.

There's a built in "night shift", but that just changes the colour temperature, it doesn't make everything monochrome red.

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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The red color filter for outside when trying to preserve night vision is a great tip. Some apps have this built-in but much better to have the OS change it everywhere. Recommend creating a Shortcut to toggle this setting.

> Recommend creating a Shortcut to toggle this setting. Huh? It's not built-in? Android (or at least Moto) has it for years, auto enable on the schedule or the sunrise/sunset.

iOS has also had “Night Shift” for several years. The parent is talking about a full on red colour filter, like astronomers might use.

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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Every attention thief is absolutely thrilled at the idea of tracking your eyes. Let’s all imagine the day where the YouTube free tier pauses ads when you’re not actively looking at them. Shit. I’m turning into one of those negative downers. I’m sorry. I’ve had too much internet today.

If this is at all like the eye tracking in Vision Pro, it is only available to the OS and apps are not given access to the data.

System one is, but advertisers could always roll their own and see if they can get away with "you can only view this content if you give us permission to use your camera".

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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Quibble but this isn't "eye tracking" it's "gaze tracking". Eye tracking is detecting where your eyes are. Gaze tracking is what you're looking at.

Well then it's both?

Could be, but not necessarily. Eye tracking usually means it's tracking the eyes of one or more people in a video. Gaze tracking usually requires your eyes stay pretty steady and close to the tracker.

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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I love accessibility features because they might be the last features developed solely with the benefit of the user in mind. So many other app/os features are designed to steal your attention or gradually nerf usefulness.

Every attention thief is absolutely thrilled at the idea of tracking your eyes. Let’s all imagine the day where the YouTube free tier pauses ads when you’re not actively looking at them. Shit. I’m turning into one of those negative downers. I’m sorry. I’ve had too much internet today.

Watch the Black Mirror episode “Fifteen Million Merits”, to see how this might end up.

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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If this is at all like the eye tracking in Vision Pro, it is only available to the OS and apps are not given access to the data.

System one is, but advertisers could always roll their own and see if they can get away with "you can only view this content if you give us permission to use your camera".

This would not pass the App Review process

Re: Apple announces new accessibility features, including eye tracking

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If this is at all like the eye tracking in Vision Pro, it is only available to the OS and apps are not given access to the data.

System one is, but advertisers could always roll their own and see if they can get away with "you can only view this content if you give us permission to use your camera".

At least on iOS, I can't imagine that happening - apps are not allowed to demand you grant permissions unrelated to the actual functionality. From App Review Guidelines (5.1.1) Data Collection and Storage, (ii) Access:

> Apps must respect the user’s permission settings and not attempt to manipulate, trick, or force people to consent to unnecessary data access. For example, apps that include the ability to post photos to a social network must not also require microphone access before allowing the user to upload photos.

Lots of iOS apps today really want to mine your address book, and constantly spam you with dialogs to enable it, but they don't go as far as disabling other features until you grant them access, because they'd get rejected once someone noticed.

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