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The price for solar/wind + energy storage is still cheaper than nuclear tho.
This doesn't take into account the cost associated with storing the energy, or having alternate energy source to fill in the gaps.
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Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs
#72- "During the week to May 13, Germany's solar farms produced 17,531 megawatt hours (MWh) of electricity, according to data from LSEG," This is an obviously wrong number, and I'm not even sure how they accomplished such a specifically weird mistake. "Mean of 17,351 MW" would be plausible. That's different by a factor of 168.
Forgive me as I am one of those illiterate people - but if it is right to say: "By 2011, solar PV provided 18 TWh of Germany's electricity, or about 3% of the total" why is it not right to say the above? source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Germany#History (Or is the wikipedia article wrong too?)
https://www.tls-containers.com/tls-blog/understanding-mw-and....
Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs
#73The trade-offs here don't seem favourable. Gemany's per-capita energy production has been dropping [0] and I'm going to be waiting to see what their industrial manufacturing does but I doubt we're going to see China-style explosive growth out of them any time soon. We've got a very persistent trend across all these ideology-before-prosperity western countries where their energy policy is proving to be a disaster. We'…
>We're getting literal de-growth of energy What do you mean by that and why is it bad? Do you mean that we save energy and need less? That doesn't sound bad tbh.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Installed capacity is a silly metric when you want to compare intermittent energy sources like solar and wind with baseload ones like nuclear.
The price for solar/wind + energy storage is still cheaper than nuclear tho.
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#75The numbers are too low. We have seen a surge in solar panels on balconies (~10% in this higher income neighborhood), which isn't taken into account. Also several people in my family have their roof full for their own consumtion + EV, this also not taken into account. We recently went on the Autobahn for a 1000km journey, and you can see some solar farms, but very few. There is still a huge potential. Solar will also…
Small scale systems (Balkonkraftwerke („balcony power plant“) as we call them) that feed directly into the circuit of a house will appear as reduced load in these numbers (i.e. measured load isn‘t as high as it would be otherwise).
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
>We're getting literal de-growth of energy What do you mean by that and why is it bad? Do you mean that we save energy and need less? That doesn't sound bad tbh.
I mean the amount of energy they can tap into is going down. It means a substantial segment of the population are worse off, because they can't afford stuff/can't afford transport/can't afford to live comfortably. Energy is a general good for achieving a high quality of life.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are no new coal plants, instead coal plants are scheduled for shutdown or conversion. New gas plants are required to make use of gas as a storage medium one way or another.
5 days ago: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-g... > Late last month, Germany’s energy regulator said the country needs more coal power. If you want a less biased source, here is bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-s... > Reserve plant capacity needs to double by 2026, regulator says > Power stations on standby are mostly coal-, gas-fired plants
This article is riddled with statements that are factually incorrect. :(
I guess this is hard to research if you don't speak German, though.
> If you want a less biased source, here is bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-s...
Can't read this, it's behind a paywall.
> Reserve plant capacity needs to double by 2026, regulator says
That does not imply more plants if you're in a phase where you take plants out of continuous operation. It's just that existing plants must be kept in reserve and can't be completely disconnected.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are no new coal plants, instead coal plants are scheduled for shutdown or conversion. New gas plants are required to make use of gas as a storage medium one way or another.
Datteln 4 is not new?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nuclear reactors were EOL and not even their owners wanted to run them any longer. So please stop spreading your misleading take.
You ask to not spread misleading then immediatly spreading a politician lies. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/26/german-green...
[0] https://assets.cicero.de/2024-04/2022-03-03_Atomaufsicht_Ver...
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> full nuclear like France The France that regularly has to shut down its reactors in the summer because there's no water for cooling left? Great idea!
What you wrote is propaganda and not true, are you aware about that?
but you're right, half of them were down for other reasons, too: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/15/business/nuclear-power-fr...