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Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by filleduchaos »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #205
filleduchaos wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mmm, that sounds rather uncharitable. While obviously Deaf people aren't a hivemind, I think people who are not Deaf (and fully-abled people in particular) should listen when they each speak for themselves instead of coming to broad conclusions of "folly". For me it began to click due to somewhat similar discussions I've had about my sight (I'm moderately myopic in both eyes and significantly astigmatic in one), wher…

I'm not trying to convince you that you should get LASIK if you don't want to, that's your prerogative, however: - Anyone can wear glasses (or even contacts) for fashion, frames are sold without prescriptions. One can have glasses and perfect vision. - People with 20/20 vision also have the option to wear glasses that make their vision worse for whatever reason, or see things closer to their nose. The point of this c…

I'm sorry, if I'm reading you correctly you think that I should...pay for eye surgery, go through the recovery period and then...continue to use vision correcting glasses, albeit with a different prescription (one that simulates myopia and astigmatism)?

And this supposedly makes so much sense to you that you cannot understand why someone would not do that?

Alright.

Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by filleduchaos »

shermantanktop wrote: post #218
filleduchaos wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it baffles me that someone would oppose a cure to what is obviously a medical condition Ultimately, not everybody seeks to be "normal", and there is plenty of reason to fear the imposition of normalness when simply being functional would have done just fine.

When you are close to the norm, it’s much easier to ignore your differences. When you are farther away, you have to decide what to do: deny them, accept them, mask them, amplify them. None of us are truly normal.

That...does not actually address what I said?

Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by ModernMech »

whimsicalism wrote: post #322
pseudalopex wrote: post #160

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What performance enhancing drugs are prescribed for autism?

i thought we prescribed adderall for autism, but i guess cross-diagnoses are just so common nowadays that i didn’t realize what it was being prescribed for among people i know

You may be under this impression because ADHD and Autism are so frequently comorbid:

  According to the scientific literature, 50 to 70% of individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) also present with comorbid attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). From a clinical perspective, this high rate of comorbidity is intriguing. What is the real significance of this dual diagnosis? Is ADHD in fact always present in such cases? Might the attentional impairment reported among our ASD patients actually be a distinct trait of their ASD—namely, impaired joint attention—rather than an ADHD attention deficit? Could their agitation be the consequence of this joint attention impairment or related to a physical restlessness etiologically very different from the agitation typical of ADHD? The neurobiological reality of ASD-ADHD comorbidity is a subject of debate, and amphetamine-based treatment can have paradoxical or undesirable effects in the ASD population. Consequently, does a dual diagnosis, notwithstanding its currency in the literature, prevent us from shedding sufficient light on major physiopathologic questions raised by the clinical picture of ASD?
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10....

Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

filleduchaos wrote: post #351
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to convince you that you should get LASIK if you don't want to, that's your prerogative, however: - Anyone can wear glasses (or even contacts) for fashion, frames are sold without prescriptions. One can have glasses and perfect vision. - People with 20/20 vision also have the option to wear glasses that make their vision worse for whatever reason, or see things closer to their nose. The point of this c…

I'm sorry, if I'm reading you correctly you think that I should...pay for eye surgery, go through the recovery period and then...continue to use vision correcting glasses, albeit with a different prescription (one that simulates myopia and astigmatism)? And this supposedly makes so much sense to you that you cannot understand why someone would not do that? Alright.

My first sentence literally says I'm not trying to convince you, and the reasons you gave in your previous comment for not doing so are different than the ones you're giving now.

So, no you didn't read that correctly.

Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by [deleted] »

yareal wrote: post #247
r3trohack3r wrote: post #168

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They have. But I do not believe they were as common prior to the 1960s as they are in the 2020s.

In the 1960s you had to learn to mask your differences or you would suffer violence directed at you. We used to beat kids for not behaving in the ways we expect. Get enough beatings, you learn to hide the thing that gets you beat. I'm not at all convinced it was less common back then, just more hidden.

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Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by P_I_Staker »

ryandrake wrote: post #146
AnEro wrote: post #139

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yea example now there are guys in this comment section claiming keto has cured their adhd/autism. Helped reduce symptoms, sure, but cure? (I've got both of them been on keto, like crazy strict ensuring i was in ketosis every two days type, and it only reduced brain fog personally)

Whenever you get an HN story that even remotely brushes up against health, fitness, or nutrition, you inevitably get all the wacky exercise, supplements, and diet commenters coming out of the woodwork to tell you all about "what worked for me". It's a constant that you can 100% count on every time.

On reddit challenging intermittent fasting or keto can easily get you insulted, then banned.

These fitness yahoos just won't stop.

I also want to take a moment to call out all the deadlifters. Virtually 100% of people I know that have done substantial deadlifting eg. over 300lbs (give or take), for extended periods of time (several months to years) has wound up with either stress injuries or traumatic injuries; often it's both.

Meanwhile the deadlift crowd will insist they are just idiots, doing the exercise wrong. The point was that many people have poor coordination and don't have teams to watch over them and correct mistakes. Even mentioning this will lead to mass ridicule from bros that will insist that heavy deadlifts can only make your body feel minty fresh.

I'm not actually anti-deadlift, btw. I personally saw big improvements in the early stages. These problems seem to occur when the body starts fighting you, and you still want to keep going. Variation can help.

Or you could just do vertical loading and/or more moderate exercise and don't worry about proving your worth.

Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by P_I_Staker »

john01dav wrote: post #57

Pathologizing autistic behaviors is not the right approach here. Most autistic behaviors are harmless except insofar as allistic (non-autistic) people provide unnecessary consequences for it and through incompatibilities. We don't say that a Linux workstation in a network of Windows computers is broken or needs to be fixed (or visa-versa), but rather we recognize that the problems are due to the differences. As such,…

Do you have autism or ADHD? This is actually a really contentious issue. Tons of people with the condition are happy to let others be themselves, but want to be cured.

With ADHD, it's actually a little crazy to me that people consider it "harmless". There's a ton of tangible ways that it hurts relationships and goals. I can't even make dinner and tidy house; doesn't matter how much time I have.

I will say the medicine made me a little more robotic and took a bite out of my personality; but this was a small nibble compared to not being able to do almost anything comfortably, and the consequences of that.

It's really damaging to your personality to not be able to conversate with people and understand each other. It's really damaging to your personality to not be able to practice your hobbies with friends. I really don't feel like my "true" self, and see others able to effortlessly be that person.

Re: Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins

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Post by shermantanktop »

filleduchaos wrote: post #352
shermantanktop wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you are close to the norm, it’s much easier to ignore your differences. When you are farther away, you have to decide what to do: deny them, accept them, mask them, amplify them. None of us are truly normal.

That...does not actually address what I said?

You’re right, meant to respond to the parent comment.
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