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I'm a fan of most of Oshii's work, and Angel's Egg is a particular favourite, but it's not hard to see why it's rarely recommended. The film has very little narrative and it leans heavily on visual symbolism.
The best way to sell Angel's Egg to the people predisposed to seeking out anime is to mention its influence on Dark Souls 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9wSol7JdG0
Selling 'Ghost in the Shell'
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#202Ghost In The Shell suffers from really dragging in the middle. There's a bunch a bunch of sequences which go on just way too long for the total amount of plot in the film, and there's a lot of missing context for the main character's motivation: we just kind of get a couple big exposition dumps, but no real feel for who the Major is or why the core conceit of the plot matters to her. The Stand Alone Complex series, c…
All of this is to say I think the movie is just fantastic and I regularly find new things to love about it on each rewatch.
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#203GITS is amazing as a design universe. The more you dig into the manga or movies (even the SACs) the deeper you get sucked in to what could be. From the vision of mind interfaces to the dream of mind across the net. It was WAY ahead of it's time and still stands up today. Every crevasse of the original Manga contains deep thought out design on what digital life could become. What constructs we become once we crossed t…
The SAC series were also intensely thoughtful and well-written, with softly stated political intrigue and philosophical musing that somehow doesn't ever devolve into navel gazing. Really a must watch anime series if you like anime or even just sci fi at all.
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#204Feels weird not finding the name of Masamune Shirow even once in the article (or the comments here, at least the last time I checked)
He's mentioned in the comments there.
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#205I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…
I think no reply are really getting at this question.
If you consider the two latter Miyazaki movies not being included, I think "greats" to you must be something that is "very unique and distinct from the western (animated) movie but also distinct enough from its own (anime) peers".
If you see it that is way, Howl's was not distinct at all (based on a UK book & doing what worked in spirited away) and boy and the heron (essentially reusing expressions from all the works of Miyazaki).
I think you're just looking for that "wow" factor again. Something that put your mind at edge because your brain couldn't predict what will happen next, because they don't follow usual (selling) clichés in story telling or cinematography.
I don't think many anime of today really have that. The only one I can think of is the original Evangelion but that's quite old now too. Maybe Attack of Titan, Pluto, but that's a bit subjective.
I can think of multiple Mangas that would fall in to that. Mangas allow more artistic freedom because it's made by a smaller team, and requires smaller fan base so can be bold in trying new expressions. But might lose its charm when (if) adapted to animation. Ghost in the shell mentioned in the original post too, is Very different from the Manga. (source material) and to people that really got intrigued by the deeper theme about consciousness they might prefer the Manga more.
I haven't watched it myself but maybe the recent adaptation of Junji Itos horror might fall under that "wow" category. His style (in writing) is very unique.
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Orbital Children is a literal sequel to Dennou Coil. But I’m sure you’re aware of this. :)
Ahhh cool. Didn't actually remember that, though I had a faint feeling they were related. :)
Though once I noticed the space station was getting entirely covered in Isako's scribblings, that was... a moment.
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#207I feel like I haven't seen an anime in years that's been in the same league as Akira or the great Miyazakis (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Totoro). Yes i'd be brutal and include Miyazakis following works in that list, from Howls Moving Castle to The Boy and the Heron. Ive seen lots of incredible animation, sure, but nothing like the cinematic depth. What am I missing? What should an old fart who's becoming convin…
-Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
It single-handedly revived interest in the game for a reason; it's excellent, particularly as a foil to GITS and a spiritual successor to FLCL (which I'm sure you've heard of). The animation style is VERY different from GITS, but no less technically impressive, and while the story is not quite as philosophical, it's still no less complete and satisfying.
-Sonny Boy
Tinges of Nolan, Kurosawa, Carroll, Cheever's The Swimmer. May seem like a slog at some points, but hang on for the sequence during the last episode. You'll know it when you see it. I don't want to give too much away.
-Mind Game
Again, don't want to spoil. I recommend watching late at night, Adult Swim-style. A prime example of anime that can't exist in any other medium.
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Watch Redline, Demon City Shinjuku, Ergo Proxy, Psycho Pass, GITS series (not the netflix animated crap), Berserk, Ninja Scroll, Jormungandr, Black Lagoon.
I watched Redline recently. The animation is worth seeing but the "story" is paper-thin. Ergo Proxy I just didn't get. Psycho Pass I really enjoyed; good depth of story and exploration of the pros and cons. GitS series is probably my favourite anime, and very high up in my favourite anything. Berserk is good, and descends into Evangelion-level insanity as it progresses. Ninja Scroll is forever a classic. Worth a re-w…
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#209> America and Europe saw their first major “anime boom” during the ‘90s. I'm not sure that's true, we had a ton of anime in Europe in the 80s already. Capitan Tsubasa aired in 86 in Italy and 88 in France, and I'm pretty sure we had a lot of Go Nagai stuff before that.
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#210GITS is amazing as a design universe. The more you dig into the manga or movies (even the SACs) the deeper you get sucked in to what could be. From the vision of mind interfaces to the dream of mind across the net. It was WAY ahead of it's time and still stands up today. Every crevasse of the original Manga contains deep thought out design on what digital life could become. What constructs we become once we crossed t…
If you want a deeper look into the worlds of Anime at the time, I recommend: Anime Architecture : Imagined Worlds and Endless Megacities, Hardcover https://www.thamesandhudsonusa.com/books/anime-architecture-... Its a really cool book
I was super impressed by the price point of this book. All the reviews say the print quality is excellent. $45 for a ~250 page hardcover is a great deal even if you just want it to sit on a coffee table or book shelf. Thanks for the tip, I ordered immediately, and it’s going on the small desk in my office.