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Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by swader999 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #61
Havoc wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A llm is biased by design I don’t think some bias is inherently in models is in any way comparable to a pay to play marketing angle

I reject the framing. We can't have it both ways. If we want model makers to license content they will pick and chose a) the licensing model and b) their partners, in a way, that they think makes a superior model. This will always be an exclusive process.

I think we need to separate licensing and promotion. They have wildly different outcomes. Licensing is cool, it's part of the recipe. Promoting something above its legitimate weight is akin to collusion or buying up amazon reviews without earning them.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by neonsunset »

pelagicAustral wrote: post #46

So soon enough we'll get stuff like: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. > ChatGPT: DID YOU HEAR ABOUT C#? It's even faster that light, now with better performance than Ruby!!! Get started here: https://ms.com/cs I can generate the code in Ruby or I can give you 20% discount on Microsoft publishing on any C# book!!!

If only msft was actually promoting it like that. Do they even sell books still?

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by Zambyte »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #93
39896880 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s amazing how fast OpenAI succumbed to the siren’s song of surveillance capitalism.

Altman should have taken equity if this is the route.

Sam is just altruistically anti privacy and personal autonomy

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by drgoodvibe »

Just a matter of time before anyone can buy ad placements like Google Adsense and a walled app garden allows a customer to price match their car insurance when they type in “how do I get cheap car insurance?” into ChatGPT and openAI takes 30%. The future is here! I guess?

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by Workaccount2 »

ryandrake wrote: post #49

> "its purpose is to help ChatGPT users more easily discover and engage with publishers’ brands and content." What end user actually wants this? I've never in my life woke up and said, "You know what, I'd love to 'engage' with a corporate brand today!" or "I would love help to easily discover Burger King's content, that would be great!" The euphemisms they use for 'spam' are just breathtaking.

The end user that refuses to pay for services they use under some misplaced guise of "anything on the internet I am entitled to for free".

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by shoggouth »

boringg wrote: post #102
samfriedman wrote: post #29

>Additionally, members of the program receive priority placement and “richer brand expression” in chat conversations, and their content benefits from more prominent link treatments. Finally, through PPP, OpenAI also offers licensed financial terms to publishers. This is what a lot of people pushing for open models fear - responses of commercial models will be biased based on marketing spend.

Was anyone expecting anything else? AI is going to follow a similar path to the internet -- embedded ads since it will need to fund itself and revenue path is very far from clearcut. Brands that get it on the earliest training in large volume will have benefits accrued over the long term.

So you see the marketing point of ChatGPT to be conversational ads?

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Post by bombcar »

neonsunset wrote: post #112
pelagicAustral wrote: post #46

So soon enough we'll get stuff like: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. > ChatGPT: DID YOU HEAR ABOUT C#? It's even faster that light, now with better performance than Ruby!!! Get started here: https://ms.com/cs I can generate the code in Ruby or I can give you 20% discount on Microsoft publishing on any C# book!!!

If only msft was actually promoting it like that. Do they even sell books still?

Apparently it's now a division of Pearson: https://www.microsoftpressstore.com/store/browse/coming-soon

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by swader999 »

ryandrake wrote: post #49

> "its purpose is to help ChatGPT users more easily discover and engage with publishers’ brands and content." What end user actually wants this? I've never in my life woke up and said, "You know what, I'd love to 'engage' with a corporate brand today!" or "I would love help to easily discover Burger King's content, that would be great!" The euphemisms they use for 'spam' are just breathtaking.

If I can multiselect my favorite programming authors and adjust their influence on my team's work I'm all in. If they do it for me or because someone pays them too, I'll gippity right off this train.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by pashsoft »

So partnerships are available only to "select, high-quality editorial partners" - is that a polite way of saying "rich"? I expect chatGPT will be very effective at delivering targeted advertising and shilling products, because truth and accuracy are not required for the job. Writing convincing bullshit about $product is basically a perfect use-case for it. And since it's just a computer program you can't sue it for false advertising, right?

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Post by jjgreen »

Latty wrote: post #31
LegitShady wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

where do you buy your slide cards? they don't exist. its not a deck.

Do you also refuse to call music albums "albums"? The etymology is the exact same thing. Terms stick as formats change, that's the English language as it is used and it's not new or wrong.

Ugh, "albums" are Genesis, Yes or other dreary AoR; the cool kids listen(ed) to LPs ...
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