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Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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post #29

Death, by Ungabunga. Seriously, that really can sum it up. Linux has made a lot of inroads, but its nowhere near the stability of operating systems that spend their time "doing work" as their first priority.

Are you grouping operating systems into "linux" and "non-linux" categories, and asserting that the "linux" operating systems are nowhere near as stable?

I'd strongly disagree with that.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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post #26

Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately... How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce? The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?

I can think of: chosen versions of programs and libraries and their interaction, default configuration, compilation options etc.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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post #26

Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately... How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce? The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?

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Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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post #26

Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately... How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce? The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?

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Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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Weird. I've been using 12.04 since it was in beta and it's been stable for me. The only problem I've had lately has been with flash videos chewing up too much CPU and causing things to get a little hot.

12.04 has been the single worst release ever for me (used Ubuntu since 2006). These include the Nvidia binary driver crashing, the open source Noveau driver losing the plot and drawing random content from the wrong windows, a 2 minute wait booting a laptop waiting for network, compiz move window making life hard but disabling is even worse, sound applet not showing up, repeatedly disabling my webcam microphone for no reason, massive increase in power consumption and the list goes on.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#37

Works fine here. As always, hardware support is tricky.

It works fine for me, too. I don't understand why anecdotes of problems are seen as interesting data points (for anyone other than the developers attempting to improve the software), especially in a community of technical people who presumably have some decent grasp on probability. This could be explained just by buggy hardware, or hard drive corruption, or any number of things. It's also not unique to Ubuntu.

See also:

1. My iPhone 4S crashed randomly when I got it.

2. Google "windows 7 freezes randomly" -> 74,000 hits

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:answe...

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#38
post #24

Good job on the LTS, Canonical. I don't understand why they don't make the release cycle longer. Perhap 9 months or a year, or even just one additional month for QA. I first started using Ubuntu, and Linux, when 9.04 came out and it was great. Since then the quality has steadily declined. 9.10 was good too, but ever since 10.04 every release has sucked. They can't even do LTS releases right. Sorry for ranting, but th…

Since? 10.04 systems hang after 200+ days due to a kernel bug. If you install the latest kernel, which addresses the issue, after 200+ days processes still no longer report any CPU usage. 10.04 itself was a joke.

Yeah, that was actually what I meant. Sorry for not expressing myself more clearly. 10.04 was a huge disappointment.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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I found 11.04 & 11.10 to crash on my old Dell Vostro desktop constantly. Generally speaking, 12.04 has made it feel like a completely new computer.

11.04 used to frequently crash for me too on my Thinkpad T420. I started building my own 3.0 kernels and that got rid of the crashing problem. I've had no such problems since I upgraded to 12.04 over a month ago. Works perfectly here.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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post #26

Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately... How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce? The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?

Every distro uses different kernel configs/versions as well as different versions of libc and other such core packages. If the crash is specific to a certain kernel config option that is only enabled in one distro, then the crash would be distro-specific.
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