Weird. I've been using 12.04 since it was in beta and it's been stable for me. The only problem I've had lately has been with flash videos chewing up too much CPU and causing things to get a little hot.
"Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"
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#22Good job on the LTS, Canonical. I don't understand why they don't make the release cycle longer. Perhap 9 months or a year, or even just one additional month for QA. I first started using Ubuntu, and Linux, when 9.04 came out and it was great. Since then the quality has steadily declined. 9.10 was good too, but ever since 10.04 every release has sucked. They can't even do LTS releases right. Sorry for ranting, but th…
First of all, LTS is no real LTS prior to the .1-release. All LTS-releases had serious issues at first, as far as i remember even dapper drake. Which is not even really harmful for an LTS, since corporations had no need to upgrade as soon as possible from the last LTS.
Furthermore, the story of the declining release-quality was also said about 7.04 (pulseaudio was the issue, if i remember correctly), and edgy prior, end the one after feisty... hoary was nice, but it wasn't that good. 12.04 got - apart from this bug now - really good reviews and felt good on my laptop, so condemning canonical because of one bug seems inappropriate.
Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"
#23As EternalFury says, hardware support is tricky. Ultimately that is why I went back to windows, I couldn't deal with total system crashes in the middle of coding or demo'ing and maintaining a windows VM was just a band aid.
Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"
#24Good job on the LTS, Canonical. I don't understand why they don't make the release cycle longer. Perhap 9 months or a year, or even just one additional month for QA. I first started using Ubuntu, and Linux, when 9.04 came out and it was great. Since then the quality has steadily declined. 9.10 was good too, but ever since 10.04 every release has sucked. They can't even do LTS releases right. Sorry for ranting, but th…
Since?
10.04 systems hang after 200+ days due to a kernel bug. If you install the latest kernel, which addresses the issue, after 200+ days processes still no longer report any CPU usage.
10.04 itself was a joke.
Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"
#25Good job on the LTS, Canonical. I don't understand why they don't make the release cycle longer. Perhap 9 months or a year, or even just one additional month for QA. I first started using Ubuntu, and Linux, when 9.04 came out and it was great. Since then the quality has steadily declined. 9.10 was good too, but ever since 10.04 every release has sucked. They can't even do LTS releases right. Sorry for ranting, but th…
Ubuntu is just a distribution. They don't directly hack on everything they ship. This is why they try to keep up with the upstream which releases the new versions. They do it in fact less than Fedora, which may or may not be a good thing. Maybe if they get really big they can afford to slow down.
To add my little Linux rant (as a stupid user):
I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I had almost everything I needed after a 15 minute installation. I prepared mentally for a battle with Skype. It actually worked really well.
I toyed with gnome-language-selector and somehow my language got switched to Chinese. And then the 2 hour battle began. No matter what I did, my GNOME or Unity sessions stayed in Chinese. Ubuntu devs decided that I don't need to select the language at login, so I couldn't do it there, and the various locales didn't convince anyone except the shell that I don't want Chinese. Finally I opened again gnome-language-selector in which I couldn't previously select the language. Turns out I had drag and drop and not click the languages. So I had to pick up English and drop it above Chinese for it to work.
I should have reinstalled Ubuntu - it would cost me less time. And I still have no idea why I had Chinese in the first place.
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#26Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately...
How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce?
The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?
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#27Works fine here. As always, hardware support is tricky.
Not only that, accelerated 3D video hardware is as tricky as it gets. Hats off to the open source developers who attempt it, often having to reverse engineer some of the most complex hardware known to man.
Am I missing some context here? Why is a nouveau driver crash front page news?
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#28Weird. I've been using 12.04 since it was in beta and it's been stable for me. The only problem I've had lately has been with flash videos chewing up too much CPU and causing things to get a little hot.
That is Adobe's problem. Canonical can't do much about it. Flash has always been sloppy on Linux for me.
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#29Death, by Ungabunga.
Seriously, that really can sum it up. Linux has made a lot of inroads, but its nowhere near the stability of operating systems that spend their time "doing work" as their first priority.
Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"
#30Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately... How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce? The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?
1. Downstream sometimes patches packages to solve problems. Patches can have bugs.
2. A bug may be triggered by the presence of two conflicting libraries or configuration settings that appear in the version sets chosen by a distro.