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Spare me with this; one of Musk's very first major actions was removing an account he didn't like (and had previously committed to leaving alone! https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 ) because it was tweeting publicly available ADS-B data his plane was broadcasting... and then went on a tear banning journalists tweeting about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spare me with this; one of Musk's very first major actions was removing an account he didn't like (and had previously committed to leaving alone! https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 ) because it was tweeting publicly available ADS-B data his plane was broadcasting... and then went on a tear banning journalists tweeting about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...
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He has every right to do it. He promised not to, and you're still claiming he isn't. That hypocrisy is very apparent.
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Spare me with this; one of Musk's very first major actions was removing an account he didn't like (and had previously committed to leaving alone! https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 ) because it was tweeting publicly available ADS-B data his plane was broadcasting... and then went on a tear banning journalists tweeting about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...
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"It's almost ready" is a claim about the product at the time of sale.
"Almost ready" as a claim is pretty meaningless. It's a statement of feature status, not a prediction of when 100% completion occurs. In software, "almost" can last years or decades.
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-doubles-down-on-cl...
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#116Absolutely. If Martha Stewart went to jail for much less, a certain CEO[1] should be doing some hard time for ludicrous claims over the past 8 years. Some back-of-the-napkin-math: If we focus on the 4m Model 3 (& Y) vehicles sold that had these claims attached and assume that there was a peak uptake rate of 46% declining to 11% as these claims became obviously untrue. On FSD @ an ever-increasing price of $6000-$12000…
[https://www.theverge.com/23815634/tesla-elon-musk-origin-fou...]
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And after years of publicly looking like a lying car salesman, why would he still listen to those employees? I don’t think it’s the line employees that are lying here.
The way I understood it went down for the CEO: 1. Made optimistic claims about future product. 2. Some of the people tasked with implementation disagreed about optimistic claim. 3. Those people got fired for underperforming. 4. All people on the team tasked with implementation agree with optimistic claim. 5. Doubled down on the promise. Repeat every year. I can't see how a CEO could be blamed in this scenario, as cle…
Lying about features or the number of cars being produced etc. can't be limited to mere optimism because they mentioned specific numbers in a public way that were not true.
> fired for underperforming
The irony, since Musk destroys every brand and product he's ever touched. I've never seen a more polar opposite to the Midas effect at work. It has to be intentional.
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Spare me with this; one of Musk's very first major actions was removing an account he didn't like (and had previously committed to leaving alone! https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 ) because it was tweeting publicly available ADS-B data his plane was broadcasting... and then went on a tear banning journalists tweeting about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...
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It's on other platforms and the plane publicly broadcasts its location. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a2ae0a
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> "It was fine when we did it, and cooperated with intel agencies to do it, but HE shouldn't be able to!!" He has every right to do it. He promised not to, and you're still claiming he isn't . That hypocrisy is very apparent.
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