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Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by ra0x3 »

neilv wrote: post #4
bdw5204 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A recent PG essay[0] was revealing about why colleges are so prominent on those profiles and more generally about YC's thinking: > At this point I'm going to tell you something you might not want to hear. It really matters to do well in your classes, even the ones that are just memorization or blathering about literature, because you need to do well in your classes to get into a good university. And if you want to st…

I have to partly disagree with him there. My schools included MIT and Brown. And I generally really liked the students at both. And I would hire many of them. But I've also hung out in other circles that attract smart people, where I'd selectively hire first, before prioritizing random people from the fancy-pants schools. And I've worked too many places where some of the smartest and most accomplished people came fro…

Wow super insightful comment. Particularly this excerpt:

> If you want "How to Start Google [where everyone focuses on the entrance exam, and then on gaming their promotions]" then you absolutely should hire Stanford students, who had to exercise very similar thinking to get into Stanford at this point.

I realize that this applies to Google post-2015, but do you think it also applies to early Google? Where you actually had to get things done?

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by debacle »

neilv wrote: post #4
bdw5204 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A recent PG essay[0] was revealing about why colleges are so prominent on those profiles and more generally about YC's thinking: > At this point I'm going to tell you something you might not want to hear. It really matters to do well in your classes, even the ones that are just memorization or blathering about literature, because you need to do well in your classes to get into a good university. And if you want to st…

I have to partly disagree with him there. My schools included MIT and Brown. And I generally really liked the students at both. And I would hire many of them. But I've also hung out in other circles that attract smart people, where I'd selectively hire first, before prioritizing random people from the fancy-pants schools. And I've worked too many places where some of the smartest and most accomplished people came fro…

You're comparing a hand picked group from one school to the median at another. The most successful student at your average community college will likely be more successful than the median MIT grad, but that doesn't prove your point.

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by SaberTail »

mousetree wrote: post #9
Zenzero wrote: post #6

Given my experience with LLMs I am skeptical that enough prompt engineering and tuning can adequately summarize patient records. I don't expect an LLM to adequately interpret data in a way that is useful to me. While much is missed on skimming records, an AI summary sounds like a false sense of security.

I recently received a 2 page written report of an MRI. I couldn’t understand a single word of it. While waiting a few weeks for my appointment at the next specialist I used ChatGPT to explain it and I found it to be very helpful in understanding what was going on. I felt it did a better job in explaining in lay terms than the specialist doctors did (radiologists, orthopedic surgeons, rheumatologists).

How do you know ChatGPT explained it to you correctly? How do you know it didn't give you a wrong explanation that sounds plausible to a lay person?

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by danenania »

Zenzero wrote: post #6

Given my experience with LLMs I am skeptical that enough prompt engineering and tuning can adequately summarize patient records. I don't expect an LLM to adequately interpret data in a way that is useful to me. While much is missed on skimming records, an AI summary sounds like a false sense of security.

Something to keep in mind with every AI startup is that they’re trying to skate to where the puck will be in a year or two. You could still be right, but it’s worth considering what happens to any particular use case if the model gets 2 or 3x smarter.

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by renewiltord »

SaberTail wrote: post #14
mousetree wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently received a 2 page written report of an MRI. I couldn’t understand a single word of it. While waiting a few weeks for my appointment at the next specialist I used ChatGPT to explain it and I found it to be very helpful in understanding what was going on. I felt it did a better job in explaining in lay terms than the specialist doctors did (radiologists, orthopedic surgeons, rheumatologists).

How do you know ChatGPT explained it to you correctly? How do you know it didn't give you a wrong explanation that sounds plausible to a lay person?

For my part I know the same because I did it and then gave both the content and the generated report to my father: an orthopaedic trauma surgeon / my cousin a radiologist and surgeon / my other cousin a cardiovascular surgeon. All for different things.

Varying degrees of enthusiasm (my father was the most thrilled) but all remarked it was accurate. Of course I did these things for a laugh because I can just access the appropriate professional on-demand.

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

ra0x3 wrote: post #11
neilv wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to partly disagree with him there. My schools included MIT and Brown. And I generally really liked the students at both. And I would hire many of them. But I've also hung out in other circles that attract smart people, where I'd selectively hire first, before prioritizing random people from the fancy-pants schools. And I've worked too many places where some of the smartest and most accomplished people came fro…

Wow super insightful comment. Particularly this excerpt: > If you want "How to Start Google [where everyone focuses on the entrance exam, and then on gaming their promotions]" then you absolutely should hire Stanford students, who had to exercise very similar thinking to get into Stanford at this point. I realize that this applies to Google post-2015, but do you think it also applies to early Google? Where you actual…

First few employees at Google? Stanford yes because that's where they got the business/investment connections. Clearly, because L&S both came from that background as did family, and the whole Susan W's garage thing, etc. etc.

After that? Actually building the thing? Not really?

Jeff Dean:

University of Minnesota, B.S. Computer Science and Engineering (1990) University of Washington, Ph.D. Computer Science (1996)

Tho I guess Sanjay was more "ivy league" (correct me where I'm off thing, I'm Canadian and don't understand the American obsession with "brand name" on schools):

Cornell University (SB, 1987) MIT (SM, 1990; PhD, 1995)

I guess Urs was Stanford, though.

But I would insist that 1996 is a lot different from 2024.

And, honestly, pardon me, but YCombinator isn't funding the next Google. They're trying to fund the next Uber or whatever. I don't get the impression they have the guts to invest in kind of long-play deep tech infrastructure like a Google. It all seems like "X but for Y" Web2.0ish companies.

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by slashdev »

neilv wrote: post #4
bdw5204 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A recent PG essay[0] was revealing about why colleges are so prominent on those profiles and more generally about YC's thinking: > At this point I'm going to tell you something you might not want to hear. It really matters to do well in your classes, even the ones that are just memorization or blathering about literature, because you need to do well in your classes to get into a good university. And if you want to st…

I have to partly disagree with him there. My schools included MIT and Brown. And I generally really liked the students at both. And I would hire many of them. But I've also hung out in other circles that attract smart people, where I'd selectively hire first, before prioritizing random people from the fancy-pants schools. And I've worked too many places where some of the smartest and most accomplished people came fro…

Very insightful and accurate take IMHO.

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by carabiner »

neilv wrote: post #4
bdw5204 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A recent PG essay[0] was revealing about why colleges are so prominent on those profiles and more generally about YC's thinking: > At this point I'm going to tell you something you might not want to hear. It really matters to do well in your classes, even the ones that are just memorization or blathering about literature, because you need to do well in your classes to get into a good university. And if you want to st…

I have to partly disagree with him there. My schools included MIT and Brown. And I generally really liked the students at both. And I would hire many of them. But I've also hung out in other circles that attract smart people, where I'd selectively hire first, before prioritizing random people from the fancy-pants schools. And I've worked too many places where some of the smartest and most accomplished people came fro…

Notably, you didn't attend MIT or Brown for undergrad, just terminal master's degrees. The selection process for undergraduates at those schools is about 100x more rigorous than that for MS programs.

Re: YC’s founder-matching service helped medical records AI startup Hona

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Post by shuangly »

neilv wrote: post #4
bdw5204 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A recent PG essay[0] was revealing about why colleges are so prominent on those profiles and more generally about YC's thinking: > At this point I'm going to tell you something you might not want to hear. It really matters to do well in your classes, even the ones that are just memorization or blathering about literature, because you need to do well in your classes to get into a good university. And if you want to st…

I have to partly disagree with him there. My schools included MIT and Brown. And I generally really liked the students at both. And I would hire many of them. But I've also hung out in other circles that attract smart people, where I'd selectively hire first, before prioritizing random people from the fancy-pants schools. And I've worked too many places where some of the smartest and most accomplished people came fro…

So I think the statement is more like statistically in good universities you're more likely to meet other great engineers and cofounders. It of course doesn't mean all students from good universities are better from scrappy people community college. When it comes to reality, I'm a startup founder and how would I screen people? If someone went to Stanford it's a strong good signal. If another guy went to community college but has exceptional technical skills of course I'd hire him than an average Stanford graduates. School or past experience is just one signal but it's a strong signal.
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