No Face ID, not interested.
Agree. I can’t go back after using Face ID on iPad Pro.
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#112So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.
It’s funny seeing the disconnect between the HN community and the creator communities. The creator communities at ecstatic about this. The HN community seems to have difficult seeing uses outside their own niches. There are tons of types of “Pros”. The entire event was art focused. It’s not a toy for the artistic crowd.
Do you mind sharing a source for this? I spend the majority of my online leisure time pursuing creator communities and I've never seen anything "ecstatic" about iPads.
The iPad audio scene is lukewarm, Procreate is generally considered exciting but I'd sum those as a fraction of a percent of the overall digital creator community. There's also a bit of lukewarm interest in iPads as on set (movie/photo) devices.
I would love to hear specifically who you're talking about and what they are staying.
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Why are you trying to mirror and not just draw in native apps? Not claiming you're wrong, just wondering what apps/workflow you're using, since "drawing" is pretty good on the iPad.
Not OP: But I've considered getting an iPad+Pencil to use as a digital whiteboard / tablet in meetings. My plan was to either AirPlay the screen to the Mac or use some app like Freeform that syncs sketches in real time and have the Mac app open. I probably wanna jump quickly between e.g editor / terminal / website and the whiteboard, and sharing the iPad monitor directly by joining the call seems to heavy.
Ah, I would have just joined Zoom twice, once from my MBP, once from the iPad. But, yeah, if you're sharing apps from both devices, that's a bit of a PITA.
I'll have to try it the way you describe sometime just to see how it works for me.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
For iPad alone there are 6 iPad versions now. And 4 Apple Pencils. It's already on Performa level. Similar things happen to iPhone (4 overlapping nearly identical models every year for a total of 7 currently being sold) and Macbooks (any number of models any given year, they are currently selling 5)
I apologize for being pedantic here, but we're nowhere near Performa-level confusion. There were 70 distinct models of Macintosh Performa between 1992 and 1997 when the last Performa was shipped. What is the difference between the Performa 635, 636, 637, and 638... SKUs, I guess? There was a model of Performa that sold for literally 2 weeks (the Performa 410). Apple sold the same series of computer under different na…
There have been 18 iPad models in the past 5 years. And now there are 4 more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad#Timeline Granted, it's not 70, but 22 is quite a number.
The difference between many of them is about the same as between 635, 636, 637, and 638
And who exactly is iPad aimed at?
Or can you tell me without looking into specs what exactly is the difference between iPad Pro and iPad Air? Or even looking at the specs: https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
Apart from the CPU bump they are so similar that you can't help but to think that they didn't include Thunderbolt in regular iPad just to have something to differentiate them.
Funnily enough, Air weighs more and is thicker than the Pro. A great sign of company completely losing all sight of their product lines.
You don't need 6 iPads. You need 3: iPad Mini, iPad Mid, iPad Max. Name them however you want to name them.
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It's a toy after they stop updating it in a few years and you can no longer run new creative software for no good reason. In my book that makes it a toy today too.
> It's a toy after they stop updating it in a few years and you can no longer run new creative software for no good reason. My Mom who's a teacher is still using a 2017 iPad Air as a daily driver for most usecases (eg. Google Classroom, Netflix, Textbooks).
I use a laptop that has a factory Windows Vista sticker on it. I don't find that noteworthy.
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It's a toy after they stop updating it in a few years and you can no longer run new creative software for no good reason. In my book that makes it a toy today too.
My iPad Pro turns 6 this year and still runs the latest operating system.
My Dell Insprion turns ~15 this year and still runs the latest operating systems.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a toy after they stop updating it in a few years and you can no longer run new creative software for no good reason. In my book that makes it a toy today too.
After a few years? Are you sure you're not talking about Android tablets? You easily get 5-6 years of full OS updates, not just security patches, on all iOS/iPadOS devices.
And then what?
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#118I used some WFH budget on an iPad Air and a pencil thinking it would be great for taking notes and diagramming things but it’s mostly been useless. The UX of mirroring from my laptop to draw things has been a buggy mess in every app I’ve tried. The device has been relegated to a screen for watching movies on during flights.
I got my wife an iPad to extend her macOS laptop screen to when traveling, and it worked so badly she bought a portable monitor for $75.
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#119Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air
#120So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.
I would also much rather use a computer than a tablet. The same was true for desktop apps vs web apps, but web apps have gotten so much better and are cross-platform. Desktop apps instead have become repackaged web-apps. All that's to say that the disparity between tablet and computer apps will fade. Basically anything that's web based could already be on-par (if it supports Safari equally well) with the new keyboard accessory. Until Apple makes touch-screen laptops, there's always going to be some workflows that work better on a tablet.