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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.
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All newspapers get things wrong some of the time. With the best of intentions and best of skills, it ... just happens because the world is just too complex to always be 100% accurate. Of course they should strive to be accurate all of the time, but we also need to be realistic. This applies even more to warzones. What matters is how often this happens and what the response is when it happens. As far as I know, Al Jaz…
> All newspapers get things wrong some of the time. And what if there are no retraction? only if the backlash is big enough? Like in the case where there were no hundreds of dead in a direct bombing but a 50 dead in a failed PIJ rocked on hospital: https://archive.is/r6noB and the same version today: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/16/israel-ha...
Also: why are you using two accounts? :-/
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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.
This is not a dead disqualifier for a liberal society. Practically everyone but America does it.
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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.
> gay marriage is illegal Is that the bar now? Gay people get thrown from buildings next door in Gaza and they get strung up from a crane in Iran. On that basis, as a gay man, I'd much rather let Israel "trot out the rainbow flags" than take my chances with their enemies.
Nobody argued Hamas, Iran or even the Palestinian people, are liberal.
Just a point about Al Jazeera that is worth mentioning. There are two Al Jazeeras. One which is presented to Western audiences and one which is presented to Middle-Eastern audiences. The media and articles are politically aligned in each region. Don't assume what you read in the US/UK/wherever is the same as over there. In the case of Israel, the Middle-Eastern unit were literally showing videos demanding further upr…
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I think it's less the impunity and more the active supporting. The US is building a floating pier and air-dropping aid instead of simply pressuring Israel's government to let trucks through.
Israel lets more aid through now than before the October 7th atrocities. That aid is intercepted by Hamas and does not reach the intended recipients.
No, they do not. There are still less full aid trucks even after the murder of the World kitchen volunteers massively increased international pressure on Israel to let aid in.
Northern Gaza is now in full blown famine as defined by top US officials that define famine, with southern Gaza on the brink of famine, as all farming infastructure inside gaza gas has now been destroyed. They need drastically more full trucks than the the 500/day that was the norm before the war started, not drastically fewer.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-aid-coordinator-says-israel...
Reporters Without Borders gathers data and produces some interesting graphics. They recently released their World Press Freedom Index https://rsf.org/en https://rsf.org/en/country/israel --- edit: they appear to keep a list of mirrored news sites to circumvent censorship https://github.com/RSF-RWB/collateralfreedom (was hoping they had data available for their index, but have not found it yet) --- edit: the index has…
FTL: "... while more than 100 journalists were killed in six months in Gaza by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) ..." Anyone know where to find what the current accurate count of number of journalists killed in the Gaza bombardment to date? Last I heard it was 170. There are also journalists who lived but their whole family died in the strikes.
I feel like its very hard to draw any conclusions from these numbers without distinguishing between those cases (other than of course that war is a tragedy and innocents generally pay the price of war).
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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.
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I’m not sure about “dark day for the media” but it does feel like a dark day for Israel. Once you’ve established that the government can unilaterally ban a voice for reasons of “national security” you’ve essentially given them a free pass. As Americans living post-9/11 will know, “national security” is a deliberately elastic term that can cover anything required in the moment.
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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.
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Israel is front-page news because it's an American ally. Sudan and Myanmar are not. People are focussing on it because it's being talked about.