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http://www.mathworks.com/support/compilers/R2012a/win64.html
Will there even be a compiler they could licence from MS and bundle?
Even if we get free development tools it would sucks if we can't share our work for free.
For Windows 8, they're pulling the plug on freelance developers (who can still btw develop for Windows 7 if they are okay with VS 10 Express).
For now this doesn't seem to hurt because of the following reasons -
a) Gamers are indeed a vast majority of people who consciously choose Windows for a valid reason, that most mainstream games for PCs are still built with DirectX. They had no choice but to upgrade.
b) How does hurting the free developer help your case? Only that this will encourage people to build more Windows 8 stuff, but -
c) Devs can still continue to develop for Windows 7/XP using VS 10 Express. Granted, VS 11 will bring some attractive features in the language.
d) Point remains that ordinary users, gamers included, will be scarcely affected.
I just hope they're not planning anything else like the DX11 crap they pulled last time. Also wish a good graphics/multi-media framework gets developed in Linux which can give strong competition to DirectX.
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Well said. However, we can go to back the open platforms, like Android.
Honest question: how open is Android? I mean, when you consider Play. Can you write/submit an end-user programming app like Scratch? I know we can always dev-unlock the device and install anything we want, but what about the kid with an Android tablet who wants to start hacking? I'm worried about this move to walled gardens on all the platforms. The desktop is one of the last bastions of openness, but its not really…
How will this affect applications like Matlab 2012 64bit, which require a compiler (such as in the Win 7 SDK) to be installed to use certain features such as SIMULINK? http://www.mathworks.com/support/compilers/R2012a/win64.html Will there even be a compiler they could licence from MS and bundle?
Previous discussion here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4020222
I think they should instead focus on making Metro appealing to develop on, rather than making it the only free option. At least they still allow other compilers and any programming language. I wish Ubuntu would step up their development resources game, so that it becomes less painful to do anything there.
- Open source development on Windows will take a hit
- Freelancers will either stick with older and less effective tools, or will choose to abandon Desktop
- Users will tend to get less new software for their Windows 7
+/- Will not affect big corporations, e.g. gamemakers, who use the professional version
- This will provide no additional motivation to bulk of the users (e.g. corporate, gamers) to switch to Windows 8
- This will further 'encourage' piracy of VS11
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Well said. However, we can go to back the open platforms, like Android.
Honest question: how open is Android? I mean, when you consider Play. Can you write/submit an end-user programming app like Scratch? I know we can always dev-unlock the device and install anything we want, but what about the kid with an Android tablet who wants to start hacking? I'm worried about this move to walled gardens on all the platforms. The desktop is one of the last bastions of openness, but its not really…
Yes, you can. e.g AIDE : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4020222 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4021690
+ Freelancer devs will be 'encouraged' to develop for Win 8, an argument can be made this will positively impact Win 8 sells, albeit it will be a difficult argument - Open source development on Windows will take a hit - Freelancers will either stick with older and less effective tools, or will choose to abandon Desktop - Users will tend to get less new software for their Windows 7 +/- Will not affect big corporations…