Run0, a systemd based alternative to sudo, announced

Post by rcxdude » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 8:55 PM UTC

rangerelf wrote: post #260

superb_dev wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The follow argument is identical to tail `-f`. `sudo journalctl -f -u `

And what would be the equivalent to, "Oh, I don´t know the name of the log for this process I can see in 'ps aux', let me cd into /var/log and see what filenames I can find ... or grep everything until I can find a couple of words that make some sense so I can keep digging further"? The lack of explorability in journalctl, the "need" to keep everything locked behind their own flavor of tools and magic file types, is…

Post by tetris11 » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 9:01 PM UTC

rpgwaiter wrote: post #318

airocker wrote: post #310

I have seldom come across unix multiuser environments getting used anymore for servers. Its generally just one user on one physical machine now a days. I understand run0's promise is still useful but i would really like to see the whole unix permission system simplified for just one user who has sudo access.

NixOS may be helping multiuser make a comeback, at least it is for me and my home servers. I no longer have to containerize my apps, i can have one baremetal server with a dozen+ services, all with their own users and permissions, and i don't have to actually think about any of the separation. Plus there’s network shares. Multiple people in my home with linux PCs, each with their own slice of the NFS pie based on use…

Post by bitwize » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 9:03 PM UTC

nialv7 wrote: post #307

StimDeck wrote: post #22

Just a reminder that there are plenty of systemd-less distros available. Also a reminder that those distros would have been safe from the nearly-solar-winds-level backdooring of Linux distros from XZ utils.

Can you even hear what you are saying? Don't you find it ridiculous to blame the XZ backdoor on systemd, instead of the actual hacker? Even if systemd did not exist, the hacker would have just picked something else to infiltrate.

Post by tuna74 » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 9:06 PM UTC

Dalewyn wrote: post #255

constantcrying wrote: post #39

Why do they have to do this? This is really, really stupid. My issue isn't even that someone tries to replace sudo. That may or may not be a completely fine thing to do, depending on the state of sudo and what improvements can be made. But what makes me really upset is this completely unexplainable need to make everything part of one particular init system. There is absolutely no reason to tie your new sudo replaceme…

>This is a completely insane way to develop software, instead of creating a new piece of software in a separate project I appreciate and respect the KISS sentiment of doing one thing and doing it well, but oftentimes I also think open source programs' lack of integration with each other at a fundamental level is also one of its biggest downsides. Being a Windows wizard unlike most folks around these parts, seeing and…

Post by airocker » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 9:15 PM UTC

mbivert wrote: post #350

airocker wrote: post #310

I have seldom come across unix multiuser environments getting used anymore for servers. Its generally just one user on one physical machine now a days. I understand run0's promise is still useful but i would really like to see the whole unix permission system simplified for just one user who has sudo access.

I've never understood the need for sudo(1) on single-user, physical machines: I keep a root shell (su(1)) around for admin tasks, and it's always been sufficient.