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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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That’s pretty small potatoes though compared to going to a bank yourself and making a transaction for cash you don’t normally have around. Maybe there’s an ATM down the block but that’s not the case for many people.

Use a credit union or bank that doesn’t charge ATM fees; that’s what I do. Any CU-related ATM withdrawal is always free and I get 10 ATM withdrawals a month with fees reversed.

Unlimited fees reversed with Schwab checking. No monthly fee to figure out how to avoid, either.

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One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.

"One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up." Assuming banks/processors don't decide to restrict them for other reasons.

Wouldn't that be leaving money on the table? The bank that accepts business with marijuana vendors is at a competitive advantage to one that doesn't, no?

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It’s pandering and on the edge of buying votes. Unlike Student Loan “forgiveness” which was a direct purchase of a vote. And no I doubt this will rouse the pot smokers to vote, perhaps mail in, as they don’t have to do actually anything.

It's wild to me that people think "buying votes" is a bad thing. The whole point of democracy is to align the interests of the state's leaders to its population. If anything, politicians don't buy votes often enough!

Politician runs on a platform of 'Hey 51% of the population, if you vote for me I'll take the other 49%'s money and give it to you!', proceeds to win by 2%. Democracy in action!

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I'm quite ignorant about how international law and treaties interact with domestic policy. Could you educate me? What is the mechanism within US law by which this reclassification requires approval by that UN commission?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotropic_Substances_Act_(U... The above link is the Act that governs the USA's international obligations based on our treaty with the UN to schedule specific drugs and under those terms only allowed to reschedule Schedule 1 drugs with the approval of the UN; often after a review of the drugs medicinal purposes by the WHO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Drug_Abuse_Preve..…

>These domestic rescheduling may have an affect on legal charges or banking, but cannot address the overarching classifier of Schedule 1 drugs which is the UN based on the 1st link.

So, you're acknowledging that changes to legal charges, banking capabilities and so forth are benefits that come from this reclassification, but you're also calling this change "utter bullshit" and a "red herring"?

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post #128

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Well, politicians doing what people want in order to get reelected is kinda the point of democracy.

There's no need to talk down to me. My point was that they could be doing what people want for the entire duration of their term , rather than in the last few months. To use an analogy, it's like a student getting bad grades all year and then doing a bunch of extra credit assignments when they're worried about failing the class.

Your chief complaint is not new, it's nearly as old as democracy itself.

Different forms of democracy have various trade-offs, what your describing is the trade-off of representative democracy.

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post #265

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That's so sad. Here in Ontario Canada I can walk into a local neighbourhood cannabis store (one of many on every block, it seems) and make a purchase using my debit or credit card. I'm not sure if any of them even keep a cash float although I imagine they must, just in case granny comes in "for medicinal use". Alternatively, I could just go to the government-run web store and get home delivery through Canada Post at…

You can in the U.S. too. For instance, in Portland we have a neighborhood shop and you can use a debit card there because each transaction is classified as an ATM transaction. All the ban ever did was making accounting and reporting more complicated, it didn't stop state legal sales or transactions.

The difference is in Canada it's actually fully legal at all levels of government, so the transaction is a normal point of sale transaction, it can also go through a credit card as a normal purchase without being subjected to the expensive cash advance interest rates, and so on. It can even be a tax-deductible and reimbursable business entertainment expense under similar conditions to alcohol.

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post #128

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What bothers me is that all these things are only happening because it's an election year and the incumbent doesn't have great polling numbers.

Well, politicians doing what people want in order to get reelected is kinda the point of democracy.

They only dangle the carrot when they need something, ie reelection.

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OK, but at the time of Roe v. Wade, I don't think the majority of people wanted abortion legalized, either. I'm not sure the majority of people wanted gay marriage legalized (at the time). But even more: You don't want the judges to be focused on what the majority want. That's not the rule of law.

Yes, I'm objecting to the premise that "democratically accountable governments do(ing) good things that the people want" describes the process by which Roe v. Wade was repealed. It was not democratically accountable, and it was what only a subset of the people wanted.

The Supreme Court is not an example of democracy working, it's a purposely anti-democratic institution.

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sure they do. for example it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana and a firearm. the purchase of said MJ would be pretty good evidence that could lead to other warrants. That's the Hunter Biden gun charge.

It's oddly not. Only to be a user or addict with a firearm. IIRC if you just like the way weed looks in your hand that doesn't make you a user, and there's plenty of reasonable doubt you're guarding it for grandma or whoever. Of course people are still being convicted of weed and firearm, but it gets recorded as gun law violation and nobody cares, cuz left hates guns and right hates weed, so they'll never repeal it.

oh fair enough about the "user" vs possession. but my point was they could possible use this info to get a warrant to surveil you to catch you using it.
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