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Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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I know they did, that’s not my point. My point is that the words “you are holding it wrong” were never said. They told people how to avoid the problem. “Here’s a workaround” doesn’t assign blame to the user. “You are holding it wrong” does. The sentiment is different.

Oh, the sentiment was there alright. You must've forgotten how Jobs was in general and his massive annoyance when he explained this "workaround" in particular. Of course , it was users' fault. They have always been simpletons. "You are holding it wrong" is spot on. It captures extremely accurately the very essence of Jobs' attitude towards the users.

The words they said did not and could not capture your perception of the former Apple CEO. They are different things.

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

#63

EU seems like it’s just going to keep daring Apple to exit their market. I’m looking forward to their regulations requiring Apple to write open source drivers for the alternative operating system installs they’ll be required to allow.

Don't threaten me with a good time. I would use Asahi Linux full time on my mac if that were to happen.

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Why would IpadOS not be held to the same DSA rules as IOS? Apple has applied the same model of gatekeeping (walled garden) to both the iPhone and the iPad. DSA attaches requirements to the gatekeepers if they are big enough. Software similarity and market positioning don't really come into consideration once the role of gatekeeper has been established.

Doesn't this mean that game consoles should be gatekeepers too like from sony/nintendo/microsoft?

They most likely are, but Microsoft actually does allow sideloading on Xbox in some capacity.

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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post #58

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I know the history of it, I followed it closely at the time. That’s why I pointed out that the quote was wrong ( and got downvoted ). I expect the same will happen to you since you posted the correct quote.

"All phones have sensitive areas, just avoid holding it in this way" practically means "you are holding it wrong".

So if I tell a user a workaround for a software issue, and they turn round and accuse me of telling them they are using the software wrong I have to agree with them?

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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I know the history of it, I followed it closely at the time. That’s why I pointed out that the quote was wrong ( and got downvoted ). I expect the same will happen to you since you posted the correct quote.

I’m sure you understand why you were downvoted and that it has nothing to do with what facts you stated.

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Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

#67
The iPad App Store is perhaps an even more dysfunctional place than the iPhone in how much it holds hardware and use cases hostage to the manufacturer's vision. Just imagine how much more versatile the iPad Pro would be if only you could run Linux VMs on it in the moments you want to do anything remotely tinkery on an iPad.

Apple's hardware since the 2021 iPad Pro (with M1) has had the ability to do this. The iPads have the RAM (16gb on higher storage models), appropriate keyboard and trackpads, the works. Great hardware being held back by Apple's vision people weren't allowed to deviate from.

A straightforward reading of the DMA suggests that Apple is not allowed to restrict apps from using hardware features. Let's hope that means Parallels/VMware style VMs are possible without too much of a fight.

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Consoles are not defined as general-purpose computers (except for a time, the PS3), and there aren't many complaints from the game industry at large about access discrimination or unaffordable devkits any more, there's tons of indie games for just about every major platform these days. So, too much effort for too little gain, there is no artificial competition impediments any more. The only complaints tend to come fr…

It's the same for iPad, not defined as general purpose, no complaints about unaffordavle devkits (xcode is free), tons of indie apps.

Xcode is free but a developer account isn't (nor is an Xbox Dev account either for that matter)

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Consoles are not defined as general-purpose computers (except for a time, the PS3), and there aren't many complaints from the game industry at large about access discrimination or unaffordable devkits any more, there's tons of indie games for just about every major platform these days. So, too much effort for too little gain, there is no artificial competition impediments any more. The only complaints tend to come fr…

It's the same for iPad, not defined as general purpose, no complaints about unaffordavle devkits (xcode is free), tons of indie apps.

The iPad was heavily marketed as a computer replacement so definitely is supposed to be "general purpose" device. Many people I know don't use a laptop or desktop at all, and just use their iPad.

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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post #51

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Well there is _one_ way but you're probably not going to like it

I already use Android devices as well, thanks.

My guess is their way is to buy a dev account, which allows you to install apps for up to 1 year.

https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/thread/91519

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