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Re: VMware outsourcing their support

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Or KVM. Probably no enterprise type solution like something kubevirt-based really makes sense at that scale.

We run a few tens of thousands of VMs on kubevirt, it’s quite fantastic.

Well yeah. I agree. The comment up thread is running a dozen VMs and running Kubernetes with kubevirt for just that is probably overkill.

Re: VMware outsourcing their support

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100$-200$ per VM is a fair price I think. Most of the revenue generating on-prem orgs can afford it. If you think it is expensive then you are not the target segment for VMware.

"Can afford" and "expensive" are distractions - orgs don't buy things just because they have the money to so they find the most expensive option to burn it on. The product has to justify the cost vs other options, not just be feasible to purchase.

It’s this.

We can afford it all day every day.

We choose not to because I’d rather spend the money towards products and services we like.

I already do not like VMWare under Broadcom.

Maybe it wasn’t clear, but I do not expect our bill to remain at $3600, but I don’t care because this won’t be an issue for us.

Re: VMware outsourcing their support

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I vaguely remember being a very early user of VMWare, although I have long lost my license for it from the 1990s. I could have sworn there was a clause in there that early adopters had lifetime licenses and support. Did anybody else become an early adopter but kept all that license stuff, or am I not remembering it correctly?

It looks like the desktop product "workstation" was initially released in 1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_Workstation

ESXi is the building block of vSphere (which is the building block of most everything else including vSAN) and initially released in 2001

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_ESXi

Re: VMware outsourcing their support

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Amazon uses Xen which they call "Xen 2" I think because they've made tons of improvements and optimizations over the years. Google uses kvm. They probably contribute as well although I haven't checked. From a quick search Azure uses a private build of hyper-v which surprises me actually but it's possible. Edit : millions of VMs doesn't mean anything, at the end of the day it's just servers each running a bunch of VM,…

What else would MS use? HyperV is very flexible. Even Xbox games are packaged up as HyperV VMs and are run in a specialised version.

Microsoft uses Azure Host OS, which indeed uses a Hyper-V variant. [0]

[0]: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-os-platform-b...

Re: VMware outsourcing their support

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Ah, the good old Computer Associates strategy alive and well in 2024

Perhaps you already know this, others probably do not, but Broadcom acquired CA (computer associates) in 2016. So yes, literally the Computer Associates Strategy. "This IBM mainframe racket seems amazing, how can we replicate it???" Note: you're all going to be complaining about Redhat in the next 5 years, because IBM knows how to get blood from a stone.

they already killed CentOS which caused plenty of complaints
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