Wow. Today I learned CdC and ACiD are still a thing. ;-) Thanks for posting this. Even though slightly old, still timely and relevant.
CULT OF THE DEAD COW.
TODAY. TOMORROW. FOREVER.
Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
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Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#92This was actually announced/released last year. It is absolutley fascinating and deserving of HN (IMHO). > Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework. Website: https://veilid.com/ Overview: https://veilid.com/docs/overview/ Slides from the Defcon presentatino: https://veilid.com/Launch-Slides-Veilid.pdf Code: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid
I have seen other similar tools/tech on hn https://briarproject.org/ https://github.com/berty/berty There were 1 or 2 more like these but don't remember there names.
I know MaidSAFE started out this way in 2006, but I think the I had a crypto digression https://maidsafe.net/
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#93I'm amazed that CdC is still around. I remember dialing into their BBS, Demon Roach Underground, in the mid 80s. That was nearly forty years ago! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Roach_Underground
The phone number is seared into my brain for life, I think.
I can't remember my girlfriend's phone number, but the number of BBSs I called 30+ years ago? That's stuck in there until the day I die.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#94Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#95This was actually announced/released last year. It is absolutley fascinating and deserving of HN (IMHO). > Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework. Website: https://veilid.com/ Overview: https://veilid.com/docs/overview/ Slides from the Defcon presentatino: https://veilid.com/Launch-Slides-Veilid.pdf Code: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid
Man, the website really needs to be updated then. I checked over a year ago and it still has this
> The code for VeilidChat will be available on Gitlab in the coming weeks.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#96It borrows some of its marketing directly from Urbit, which HN famously has a bias against.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
The internet was different back then. We used to put trojans into image files which we distributed through a fake dating site peofile. For shits and giggles. We never did anything “serious” just stupid things like opening CD rom drives or moving their mouse around. We’d UDP “nuke” teacher computers. We’d use open networks, and download warez… all sort of silly stuff. Looking back on it… well a lot of it obviously was…
It's just a different kind of bullying.
It wasn't meant as bullying and certainly wasn't seen that way back when I did this. It was mischevious practical jokes that people laughed at. The world we live in now is not as happy of a place. I feel bad for youth of all ages growing up in the world we have now.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#98The amount of people in this comment section, on "Hacker News", that are completely oblivious to one of the most iconic groups of hacker culture is... depressing. I wonder how can we spread more zeitgeist about it to newer generations?
A frequently overlooked issue about Gen-X online culture is that it was always have on gatekeeping, snobbism and hierarchy.
It is not surprising that newer generations don't know it, because at this time, people did the most to keep things on their small clubs of initiated folks, newbies NOT welcome.
Frankly, millenials and zoomer have a far more open and welcoming approach, and probably their culture will survive better because of that.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#99The web needs more sites hosting raw .html pages formatted as plain text decorated with ASCII art with zero regard for mobile. I say this with complete sincerity.
You can support mobile with ASCII art if you render at different widths and use a HTML+CSS wrapper for media-queries! I have a whole proposal about this: https://gwern.net/utext
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#100Has VeilidChat (or anything else running on top of Veilid) been released? The page for that ( https://veilid.com/chat/ ) says its code will be released “in the coming weeks”; the whole Veilid site looks unchanged since its initial publication back in 2023. Edit: ah, some bouncing around through their FAQs found a repo for it that has commits within the last week/month: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilidchat - looks lik…
unfortunately most of their up to date documentation is on discord. there is a channel there with a list of active projects. this one caught my eye: https://github.com/cmars/distrans/
> documentation on discord
Disgusting.
I have been looking for solid example code to play with building stuff on top of Veilid, but I’m absolutely unwilling to waste time on that shit chat platform tbh.