Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023) • Hacker News Board

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by khimaros » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 4:23 PM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #25

Has VeilidChat (or anything else running on top of Veilid) been released? The page for that ( https://veilid.com/chat/ ) says its code will be released “in the coming weeks”; the whole Veilid site looks unchanged since its initial publication back in 2023. Edit: ah, some bouncing around through their FAQs found a repo for it that has commits within the last week/month: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilidchat - looks lik…

unfortunately most of their up to date documentation is on discord. there is a channel there with a list of active projects. this one caught my eye: https://github.com/cmars/distrans/

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by devjab » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

uhoh-itsmaciek wrote: post #74

dustfinger wrote: post #46

Oh man, does this bring back memories. I loved BackOrfice. I installed it on the network at the University where I was a student. I had a friend call me on a payphone from a vantage point where he could view the layout of the computer terminals being used by students doing research. At first, I would open the cd trays of a couple of the computers and he described the students confusion as they kept closing the trays…

That sounds like a crummy thing to do to the people in the lab.

The internet was different back then. We used to put trojans into image files which we distributed through a fake dating site peofile. For shits and giggles. We never did anything “serious” just stupid things like opening CD rom drives or moving their mouse around. We’d UDP “nuke” teacher computers. We’d use open networks, and download warez… all sort of silly stuff.

Looking back on it… well a lot of it obviously wasn’t cool at all. I’m just happy that my “teenagers do stupid things” happened in a time where the internet crime was basically not taken serious unless you hacked a bank.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by uhoh-itsmaciek » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:02 PM UTC

devjab wrote: post #82

uhoh-itsmaciek wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like a crummy thing to do to the people in the lab.

The internet was different back then. We used to put trojans into image files which we distributed through a fake dating site peofile. For shits and giggles. We never did anything “serious” just stupid things like opening CD rom drives or moving their mouse around. We’d UDP “nuke” teacher computers. We’d use open networks, and download warez… all sort of silly stuff. Looking back on it… well a lot of it obviously was…

It's just a different kind of bullying.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by CuriousCosmic » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:10 PM UTC

parpfish wrote: post #24

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #14

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FYI: Cult of the Dead Cow is a hacker group that has been around since the 80s. Hell a number of members actually have testified in congress before (i.e. the CdC members that were also part of L0pht).

one of them went beyond testifying in congress and just became a politician [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beto_O%27Rourke

Oh damn I didn't even connect that O'Rourke was Psychedelic Warlord.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by netsharc » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:17 PM UTC

LastNevadan wrote: post #78

I'm amazed that CdC is still around. I remember dialing into their BBS, Demon Roach Underground, in the mid 80s. That was nearly forty years ago! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Roach_Underground

One of their members had presidential hopes a few years ago: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/03/it-tu...

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by ganzuul » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:36 PM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #31

solardev wrote: post #17

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That's what 8-bit text to speech was for, played from the PC Speaker for maximum effect. It sounded like Stephen Hawking choking on vodka, but that somehow fit the mood.

> It sounded like Stephen Hawking choking on vodka I'm probably way, way overthinking this, but this seems philosophically quite deep and interesting, much like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" (ignoring Bart Simpson's masterful destruction of the ancient question).

Looking forward to your zine publication.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by debo_ » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:39 PM UTC

wyck wrote: post #67

debo_ wrote: post #35

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Not the page design, the method itself. "Bovine mother?" Come on.

The CDC was formed at an actual cow slaughterhouse. Know your history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Dead_Cow

Yes, I got it, thanks.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by garfij » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

Conlectus wrote: post #19

the_real_cher wrote: post #11

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Wouldn't raw html be better for accessibility than a JS framework? Saying this as a non-front end dev.

Raw HTML: potentially. Big blocks of undifferentiated ASCII art: no.

  aria-hidden=true

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by ganzuul » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:45 PM UTC

gryfft wrote: post #3

The web needs more sites hosting raw .html pages formatted as plain text decorated with ASCII art with zero regard for mobile. I say this with complete sincerity.

Still waiting for an LLM to communicate exclusively in this format.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by riffic » Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:54 PM UTC

tetris11 wrote: post #4

Is this in reference to tucows?

TUCOWS for those that don't know was an acronym for "The Ultimate Collection of Winsock Software" (fun fact; let's please have a bit more fun on orange site the debby downer thing here is something sometimes).