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Just a meta-observation on the discourse here. I'm _shocked_ that the discourse on ArsTechnica for this story seems civilized while here on HN it's all (so far) snark.
HN has gotten meaner lately.
Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
> Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. Vampire Facials are used on balding men - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2764957/One-Kim-K... This is not stupidly risky stuff. It was the unlicensed clinic at fault. There is nothing wrong about wanting to look good. There is nothing wrong with working to achieve something. There is also nothing wrong with doing ri…
I'm a woman on an overwhelmingly male forum giving my take. As a demographic outlier for this forum, my take tends to not be what most people here would say.
Sometimes, people find that insightful, thought provoking and valuable.
Sometimes it looks like this.
I have zero ability to predict beforehand which it will be.
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I'm absolutely not trying to strawman your comment. There is no clear cut, bright line between life and health. The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one. As noted in another comment, Arnold Schwarzenegger has a heart condition. I have read it might have killed him at a young age if he hadn't been a devoted fitness nut. He admits to using steroids. He's still alive.
> The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one. The body doesn't, but the person who prescribes the medication does. With any medication there are tradeoffs to be made. A doctor is usually able to make a more qualified assessment of said tradeoffs than the average patient. After all, the tradeoffs of taking anabolic steroids are plenty, especially when taken over longer periods of tim…
So my view of modern medicine is a tad more jaded than yours and I guess this is where we agree to disagree.
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"Steroids" [0] are a very broad category of organic compounds, and it is a mistake to assume that the effects of steroids used for performance enhancing and bodybuilding —anabolic steroids, themselves still a broad category [1]— have anything to do with steroids in general and the specific clinical use cases that each of them may have. Furthermore, the steroids that you are referring to are most likely corticosteroid…
Technically, vitamin D is a steroid, not a vitamin. I'm not assuming it's safe. I'm merely asserting it's not as cut and dried as "steroids: bad."
Don't you think that is an example of men doing 'stupidly risky stuff' for cosmetic reasons?
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Technically, vitamin D is a steroid, not a vitamin. I'm not assuming it's safe. I'm merely asserting it's not as cut and dried as "steroids: bad."
You asserted that 'it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful' , to which a commenter replied that 'steroid use is increasingly common among "hobby bodybuilders", a predominantly male demographic' . Don't you think that is an example of men doing 'stupidly risky stuff' for cosmetic reasons?
Injecting blood into the skin on your face is purely cosmetic.
And I have a lot of experience with doing things that helped my health in the face of not having a proper diagnosis for nearly 36 years that other people were highly critical of, so I'm a tad skeptical that young men using steroids are all 100 percent merely being stupid and self destructive.
No doubt that some are. But I feel it's more complicated than the kinds of cosmetic crap women tend to do.
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Women get surgery to get bigger boobs, primarily as a looks thing. Are we at the stage of inserting silicone in your junk so your jock strap looks better? (Please note you can just pad your bra if you want to look busty fully clothed. And it leaves scars, so I'm skeptical of the value it has for looking good naked or in teeny, tiny bikinis.)
>Are we at the stage of inserting silicone in your junk so your jock strap looks better? Yes? People do get penis enlargement surgery, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_enlargement#Surgical_met... or phalloplasty which has a Wikipedia page I'd rather not link here. Not really a fair comparison to breast augmentation though, which is more similar to the plastic surgery muscles some people get. Or hair plugs. Whi…
My general understanding is that phallus enlargement is intended to enhance sexual pleasure whereas breast enlargement has no such function and from what I gather likely reduces sexual pleasure for the woman.
But I don't have a phallus, haven't seen one in ages and I'm perfectly happy to be educated on the topic by actual penis-having peoples more in the know than little ole me.
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HN's audience is often pretty petty and biting towards out groups, and tends towards a certain political axis ime (often a sort of progressive individualism) that can be pretty snarky towards people who, in their eyes, "should have known better".
“progressive individualism” seems a lot kinder than I would put it. I’d call it libertarianism or anarcho-capitalism (both derogatory).
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> In an inspection in the fall of 2018, health investigators found shocking conditions: unwrapped syringes in drawers and counters, unlabeled tubes of blood sitting out on a kitchen counter, more unlabeled blood and medical injectables alongside food in a kitchen fridge, and disposable equipment—electric desiccator tips—that were reused. The facility also did not have an autoclave—a pressurized oven—for sterilizing e…
Tattoo studios have better hygiene.
Per the report two cases were acute and one case (two?) had AIDS, yet they all fell within the same viral DNA cluster (AIDS if infected in 2018 would be rare). So it seems that they were infected at very different times, yet they share a common viral strand. One explanation was that the clinic was using infected blood rather than customers' own blood, but even that sounds weird.
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Really? HN has been a mini-Reddit for quite some time now. Frequently just a bunch of low quality, unfunny and recycled one-liners hoping to grab a few precious internet points.
That's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.