A shame, because this has a lot to offer, in my opinion.
Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
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Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#52The web needs more sites hosting raw .html pages formatted as plain text decorated with ASCII art with zero regard for mobile. I say this with complete sincerity.
Use HTMX.
I prefer to use HTMX in place of other frameworks, but if you don't need a framework at all, even better!
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
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#54This feels like it would have been edgy and cool 30 years ago.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Around that time, maybe a little bit earlier, I was a Sun nerd surrounded by other Sun nerds, but this worked for Linux too: We'd FTP into each other's machines and upload things like .au files of lonely whale cries into /dev/audio for an endless supply of WTF Moments.
Oh the good times in the Un*x lab (Mostly AIX, sigh) in my first year of Uni. Telnet (What? SSH in 1995-6? nah) to friend's workstation DISPLAY=0:0; export DISPLAY xwininfo -root -all *find some candidate window or control* xkill -id XXXXXX (or just fire a perl oneliner to allocate the sum of memory and swap, and then repeatedly scan it in a random pattern. But that wasn't me).*
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#56I had high hopes for Veilid when it was unveiled (ha) but I stopped hearing about it soon after it was published online. Veilid Chat didn't really seem to work once I found the source code and except for a few "hello world" networking programs I haven't seen anything use the protocol yet. The official website doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. A shame, because this has a lot to offer, in my opinion.
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#57This was actually announced/released last year. It is absolutley fascinating and deserving of HN (IMHO). > Veilid is an open-source, peer-to-peer, mobile-first, networked application framework. Website: https://veilid.com/ Overview: https://veilid.com/docs/overview/ Slides from the Defcon presentatino: https://veilid.com/Launch-Slides-Veilid.pdf Code: https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
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If done correctly it doesn’t matter. SSR can yield an accessible HTML page and you won’t notice the difference. Client-side JS can adapt the web site to your needs -a personalization that is hard to achieve in static.
When was the last time... Or rather, when have you ever seen a framework-based page with accessibility done correctly?
Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)
#59Weren't these the guys who released BackOrifice back in the day? It was a simple to use remote control trojan with a nice GUI... had a blast with it :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Orifice?wprov=sfla1 As a kid, I attached it to some shareware game and sent it to a friend, letting it lurk. I called him up a few days later. And then once we started playing the game, I waited for a suspenseful moment to suddenly p…
It’s worth reading their new book which is a history of the group. The chat was launched at defcon last year at their birthday party and there will be more this year.