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Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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I think this is the same thing I feel when I read Meta's earnings. I continue to see growth in usage of their core properties but I don't think my entire circle touches Facebook or even Instagram nearly as much. Whatsapp certainly isn't driving those ad dollars so it truly is remarkable how disconnected my demographic (loosely using my here) is from the overall world usage.

You have no idea of Whatsapp's marketshare in India - all small businesses use Whatsapp for all communication and even take payments. That's a 1.4B population.

How does whatsapp make money? (At all, and how much?)

It's not possible it makes as much as the main Meta properties. It has no ads on anything people use.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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The layoffs and dividend are related -- the company's death rattle has been shaking a while now. Management is desperate to retain the confidence of the investor class.

I think most companies would love to being "dying" like Google "is". Seriously, Google is not dying and making obviously false claims is not helpful.

I could give more credibility to an argument for "stagnating" over "dying". A lot of mature companies are still hugely profitable.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

Seems like a situation where it’s worth it to be cognizant of your bubble. I don’t know exactly what you meant by “our demographic”, but I’m a frequent reader of HN, work in tech, and generally stay up to date with all things tech, and yet… I don’t know if a single person that doesn’t still use Google as their go-to place for information. Before this comment I had never even heard of Perplexity or You.com. /shrug

Oh, Perplexity is great. It's an LLM that answers with links and explanations of what you'll find in them.

I don't find it useful as a main search engine, but some queries are obviously better handled by something like it.

Anyway, yeah, I guess I'm the only person I know in real life that does not use Google.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

I think this is the same thing I feel when I read Meta's earnings. I continue to see growth in usage of their core properties but I don't think my entire circle touches Facebook or even Instagram nearly as much. Whatsapp certainly isn't driving those ad dollars so it truly is remarkable how disconnected my demographic (loosely using my here) is from the overall world usage.

I see friends' Meta activity in the Philippines and it's 10x what I see from friends elsewhere.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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post #9

I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

Google Search is a product embedded in the lives of everyone on the planet. I wonder to what extent its growth is a reflection of increasing population and Internet penetration. Even if "competitive knowledge engines" impacted Google Search, the effect would likely be minuscule compared to existing growth trajectories. Speaking personally, there are some queries where I prefer an LLM. But usually I start with Google,…

Everyone on the planet? Even in China or Russia?

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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I personally think this line of thought is due to people just not accepting how profitable advertising is to the end business. We're taking a clear and massive increase in profits that dwarf advertising costs. People don't advertise on meta/Google because they are duped by bots or some conspiracy between ads marketplace and marketing teams to hide the fraud. They advertise because their bottom line goes up and it's c…

Maybe, but I can't remeber an add I've seen, much less clicked on in the last week. You?

Need more data to see the big picture.

The number of people who don't see their bottom line growing, but are spending on ads, getting views is not reported anywhere.

Would also be interesting to see if ad budgets of the largest spenders are increasing with time once market capture is complete.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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post #9

I thought that this earnings announcement would be the first one where we'd see some impact from competitive knowledge engines, e.g. Perplexity, You.com, ChatGPT + Bing, etc., but Google still grew search $6B/15%. This is impressive both because it's hard to keep such a big business growing at that rate and because essentially everyone in my social circle has moved on from going to Google first for information. I gue…

It's possible our demographic is just more ahead of the market than you think. There's a lot more quarters left in the future...

I already include site:reddit.com when searching for reviews, but I think that's been getting astroturfed away.

Re: Google Earning Q1 2024 [pdf]

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It's going to take a long time for alternatives to make inroads into Google.

There are lots of marketing dollars looking for a home, and Google is going to be one of the better bets for some time to come.

They may turn into a zombie but they won't die for a long, long time.

For example, cable companies still exist and have a ton of paid ads on them.

Fox makes $3-5B in sales per quarter: https://valustox.com/FOXA

Sinclair isn't doing so good but they're still selling in the hundreds of millions per Q: https://valustox.com/SBGI

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