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Windows 11 now comes with its own adware
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#32Thankfully I've moved away from Windows completely. Unfortunately I still need to use it at work and using it for development is a pain compared to Linux. Today's Linux is not the same clunky mess it was 15 or even 10 years ago. If you don't run any strange hardware or don't require Windows-only applications (that Wine/Proton don't handle) then the experience is great.
Same here, I migrated to Linux a few years ago and have backhandedly enjoyed reading the continuous flow of headlines such as this one.
The only thing I've needed to bit into Windows for is Android rooting programs that are Windows only. I'm a long-reformed hardcore gamer, so I can't speak to Nvidia drivers, but did recently today through Deus Ex via Steam on Linux, the setup for which was a relatively pain free experience.
Edited to add: PopOS, Debian, and Ubuntu have been the flavours, with my daily driver being Pop.
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#33I'm no fan of the direction Windows has been going since 7, but this is exactly like the default behavior of KDE Plasma (at least on OpenSUSE).
I guess HN is just a more pretentious version of Reddit now? Share simple facts and people downvote/flag you for not being sufficiently outraged about the subject?
Windows 11 costs money, KDE does not. Changes things slightly.
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#34I use Windows for one thing now. To play a single game that is not available on Linux or the Mac. I don't know how much longer I will be playing that game.
Which game? Have you checked Proton (or Wine) compatibility?
Has to be a competitive fps. I’m in the same camp, I boot into windows for call of duty.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been running a RTX 3060 on Debian 12 under Gnome+Wayland for quite some time now (Nearly a year I think!). It's stable enough that I rarely notice anything to complain about. Sleep and resume works, though resume is quite slow. I can play just about any game on Steam including most Windows-only titles, not to mention GPU Compute workloads. It hasn't always been smooth sailing on Linux but I haven't experienced a…
Most of the issues I've run into are related to multiple monitors, on both Xorg and Wayland. Xorg can't do mismatched refresh rates, or VRR at all with multiple monitors, or HDR at all. The last time I tried Wayland (with KDE) it ended up in a bizarre state where my mouse clicks were going to a different point on the screen than where the cursor was, which was fixed if I disabled one monitor but I couldn't figure out…
Admittedly I haven't been using a multiple monitor setup since I bought a 43" LG 4k screen. 1.5x scaling is no longer an issue though, as of the latest versions of gnome and wayland, that just works and I haven't noticed any problems with scaling at all (still requires the "tweaks" app because gnome can't be arsed to expose any power-user features in their settings ui).
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#37Microsoft is emulating the Meta business model now: The customers are the product....
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#38Thankfully I've moved away from Windows completely. Unfortunately I still need to use it at work and using it for development is a pain compared to Linux. Today's Linux is not the same clunky mess it was 15 or even 10 years ago. If you don't run any strange hardware or don't require Windows-only applications (that Wine/Proton don't handle) then the experience is great.
The main blocker for me is still the Nvidia drivers, with Xorg itself having deal-breaker limitations that are never going to get fixed and Wayland on NV still not being quite there yet. Yeah it would be smoother sailing with an AMD card but that's a pretty big caveat when Nvidia has 78% of the market per the Steam survey.
Agreed. I've always found the nvidia drivers to be a pain in the neck and a source of system instability in Linux systems and have actively avoided nvidia hardware.
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#40Thankfully I've moved away from Windows completely. Unfortunately I still need to use it at work and using it for development is a pain compared to Linux. Today's Linux is not the same clunky mess it was 15 or even 10 years ago. If you don't run any strange hardware or don't require Windows-only applications (that Wine/Proton don't handle) then the experience is great.
Mostly agreed. Though WSL+Docker do make Windows more tolerable for work chores. It was literally an ad in the start menu search that got me to start using Linux full time. (Insiders a couple years ago).
I use WSL for work as well and in my opnion it fits Microsoft's classic "embrace, extend, extinguish" paradigm.
WSL basically prevents most from requesting from the IT dept, A full blown Linux desktop/Laptop because they will simply say "you want Linux? here have WSL, it is 100% Linux", Which it is really not, WSL's idiosyncrasies from a true Linux Desktop drives me nuts at times.