Windows 11 now comes with its own adware • Hacker News Board

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

#11

Post by margorczynski » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:08 AM UTC

Thankfully I've moved away from Windows completely. Unfortunately I still need to use it at work and using it for development is a pain compared to Linux.

Today's Linux is not the same clunky mess it was 15 or even 10 years ago. If you don't run any strange hardware or don't require Windows-only applications (that Wine/Proton don't handle) then the experience is great.

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

#12

Post by moelf » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:08 AM UTC

Earlier today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40142667

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

#13

Post by zeta0134 » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:10 AM UTC

slily wrote: post #9

I'm no fan of the direction Windows has been going since 7, but this is exactly like the default behavior of KDE Plasma (at least on OpenSUSE).

This would be a more charitable argument if Discover was in the habit of promoting proprietary software for sale. Perhaps that's true on OpenSUSE specifically? On KDE Plasma on my system, the search lens only seems to suggest things in the local repositories, which are all free software. It's also trivially easy to configure which lenses are enabled, and as a bonus has a local file search that actually works (and quickly at that)

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

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Post by labrador » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:11 AM UTC

slily wrote: post #10

slily wrote: post #9

I'm no fan of the direction Windows has been going since 7, but this is exactly like the default behavior of KDE Plasma (at least on OpenSUSE).

I guess HN is just a more pretentious version of Reddit now? Share simple facts and people downvote/flag you for not being sufficiently outraged about the subject?

First rule of getting downvoted - don't talk about getting downvoted

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

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Post by aeroghi » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:14 AM UTC

I've replaced my start menu with Open-Shell which is quite customisable... and doesn't need settings changed on a regular basis to opt-out of advertising!

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

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Post by rkagerer » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:17 AM UTC

Sweet, I don't need to rely on third party viruses and scammers anymore to unlock that feature!

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

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Post by maximus-decimus » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:17 AM UTC

slily wrote: post #9

I'm no fan of the direction Windows has been going since 7, but this is exactly like the default behavior of KDE Plasma (at least on OpenSUSE).

I'm on Kubuntu and don't have ads in my menu bar.

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

#18

Post by capitainenemo » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:18 AM UTC

datagrimx wrote: post #6

I use Windows for one thing now. To play a single game that is not available on Linux or the Mac. I don't know how much longer I will be playing that game.

Which game? Have you checked Proton (or Wine) compatibility?

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

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Post by jsheard » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:18 AM UTC

margorczynski wrote: post #11

Thankfully I've moved away from Windows completely. Unfortunately I still need to use it at work and using it for development is a pain compared to Linux. Today's Linux is not the same clunky mess it was 15 or even 10 years ago. If you don't run any strange hardware or don't require Windows-only applications (that Wine/Proton don't handle) then the experience is great.

The main blocker for me is still the Nvidia drivers, with Xorg itself having deal-breaker limitations that are never going to get fixed and Wayland on NV still not being quite there yet. Yeah it would be smoother sailing with an AMD card but that's a pretty big caveat when Nvidia has 78% of the market per the Steam survey.

Re: Windows 11 now comes with its own adware

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Post by Alupis » Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 1:18 AM UTC

jcmontx wrote: post #5

delduca wrote: post #2

That’s why I migrated my gaming machine to Pop_OS!

Is it actually any good for gaming?

Gaming on Linux is actually pretty great these days - thanks in no small part to Valve and their momentous efforts in the space, proton included.

If you run into an issue, it's almost always the Anti-Cheat software to blame. There are many games that run very well in single player modes, but then force-quit if you try to join multiplayer (as-in the anti-cheat kicks you or deliberately crashes the game). I'm not aware of any work-arounds that are reliable for this - and you risk a ban in trying so. They detect you're not on Windows and refuse to work.

Games that don't use aggressive Anti-Cheat work fine, even in multiplayer. There's a huge catalog of games that work natively these days, and proton takes care of just about everything else.

Steam mostly "just works" with all games. There's Lutris, Bottles and more for everything else.