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Burning the American flag does not make for a traitor. It makes for an individual expressing the greatest right we have — freedom of speech. Suppressing freedom of speech is the most anti-American stance one could take.
I don't give a shit about flags but as a veteran it still pains me. I think flag burners like Koran burners just like causing pain.
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You forgot Iraq?
I don't recall a lot of violent protests against the war in Iraq after the initial protests. It seems young people lost interest. They certainly care very little for the vets that return broken.
Also consider, it was more difficult to organize due to lack of ubiquitous broadband and tooling. Now with the democratization of information and tooling to organize protests (things like Slack, Discord, Google Docs sharing features all running on a super computer in everyones pocket) it has grown in scope.
Finally Gen Y and Gen Z took different paths. Gen Y graduated into the new great depression, got duped by Obama's Hope and Change, and then when they finally got back on track headed right into the post-pandemic economy. GenZ never had any illusions given what they saw their older siblings go through.
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Mark Warner has gotten $343,211 from AIPAC. He cares about placating Israel, not protecting our data. If you can find a politician who says this but doesn't take money from AIPAC, I might be a little more convinced.
If merely accepting donations invalidates a politicians ability to have their own views then I suppose no politician legitimately cares about anything (perhaps that’s true, but I wouldn’t bet on it).
There are a handful of politicians that refuse to take any corporate PAC money (The Squad, Sanders etc.) instead electing to only take small dollar donations from regular people. Its reasonable that you will take money from the people you are elected to serve, not corporations and superpacs. There have been attempts to just get money out of politics altogether and instead introduce a general fund from taxes to pay out the expenses of running for office while banning all other forms of donations. That would be the best because it gives even small time people a chance.
Veto it on the grounds that it would cost Biden the election and that would be disastrous for me personally
Biden seems to be pretty much doomed in the election anyway. Of course he might pull out an upset but it’s hard to pin it on this being the cause of his loss
FYI, I used a tool I develop [1] to look into this, and came to the following conclusions: - Biden will sign the bill (>95%) - The Commerce Secretary will start the 12 month clock (>95%) - TikTok will challenge the ruling (>95%), which may delay the clock starting to delist or divest, but they are unlikely to win (20%) - And if they lose, they will succeed in selling to a US company (75%) - The sale will be for $30-5…
Will it start to lean towards the nonsense we are seeing with Meta platforms? (Limiting Pro-Palestinian voices, boosting Pro-Israel content).
Banning (if you can call it that? Divesting?) a single product like this is a strange move. It’s using a shovel to clear the early crumbs of an avalanche.
I don’t think this is the right move. Yes, it threatens the monopolies that companies like Facebook have established. And let’s assume that Haidt is right and social media and the surrounding ecosystem is a cesspool of negativity being lunged at the youth. I still think that it’s in a way petulant and reactive to pass a bill for this. A foreign country is not responsible for our leaders having failed to nurture us into sensible adults who do not fall prey to these dark patterns and tactics. I will refrain from the angle that our leaders intentionally did not want us to be critical, independent thinkers to further their own agendas by treating us like lepers.
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It's hard to tell whether you're being intentionally obtuse or are just naturally pedantic, but look at the headline in every news article (including this one on HN). No reasonable person in the US knows this as anything but The TikTok Bill.
That's the fault of the media, not the government.
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Burning the American flag does not make for a traitor. It makes for an individual expressing the greatest right we have — freedom of speech. Suppressing freedom of speech is the most anti-American stance one could take.
I don't give a shit about flags but as a veteran it still pains me. I think flag burners like Koran burners just like causing pain.
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It'd be nice if Gen Z became less anti-American. America deserved it in the Vietnam war. Now, not so much.
I think ignorance like this is the true source of many problems in the US. Maybe its a side effect of our individualistic culture to not consider what another group might be going through? >It'd be nice if Gen Z became less anti-American. It'd be nice if Gen Z wouldn't have to graduate with a ton of college debt into a post pandemic job market that now treats their newly minted CS degrees as worth less per day It'd b…