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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by czbond »

riffic wrote: post #27

I'm still finding new music (look at my account creation date if you want an indication what my real world age is). Go crate digging or something, I don't know what the secret formula is. Spotify's robot dj just plays the same stuff over and over without much of a discovery component to it.

My best Spotify discovery method is the channel for the style I enjoy - and it is always news songs.

I only listen to hard rock. All the songs are new & recently added with a fairly new artist mix.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by 082349872349872 »

havblue wrote: post #32

It doesn't seem like the article makes much of a distinction between newly released music and music that you haven't listened to yet. Personally, as I get older I've lost the ability to listen to the same Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc albums for the 100th time. I cringe every time I hear the opening of Don't Stop Believing. So I've kept trying to get deeper into prog and other genres lately as I'm just burnt out on th…

> Pink Floyd etc albums for the 100th time

If you can risk a 101st time, have you tried "Dark Side of the Moonshine" (2009) yet?

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by ralphc »

flerchin wrote: post #12

You stop when you want to stop. I picked up an affinity for K-pop in my 30s. Currently exploring a few other genres and also enjoying music that my kids are finding.

Me, but I found K-pop in my 50s. Add to that Doom Metal & EBM. I also discovered Nu Metal 20 years after the fact. You stop when you want to stop.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by zer00eyz »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #22

Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

>> labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists

What are you talking about. IM going to need you to back this one up with some proof.

1. The labels have a giant back catalog that remains popular. It does not need promotion. Huge long tail profits there.

2. The labels dont have a lot to sell any more. The big artists tend to get out of the system (and make money on tours) and small artists get nothing. And lots of artists have bought back their catalogs, again long tail.

The album, as a vehicle is mostly dead. Hell songs are mostly dead, if you cant hook someone in the time of a ticktock video your going to have a lot of trouble getting them. And there you need to be "background music" with a groove.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by floxy »

bojan wrote: post #63
noashavit wrote: post #45

I think that it really depends on your relationship with music. I’m no longer in my 30s and still find new music all the time. I wonder why parents consistently listening to older music than their childless peers

From the perspective of this parent - toddlers are loud. They make so much noise, continuously, either by playing or talking or, more often, both at the same time, that when I get a moment of silence I don't want to ruin it by playing music. I just want to hear nothing for a while, or chat with my partner in peace. Only in the last few months, with the youngest being almost 5, do I feel the urge to listen to the musi…

...And you are listening to music for them. Although "C is for Conifers" (by They Might Be Giants) is pretty good by toddler-music-genre standards.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by monksy »

kennyadam wrote: post #61
monksy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The artists have made it harder. They've pushed for aggressive one sided fan behavior policies (phone less), they've increased aggressively with the prices, the quality has gone down with many established bands, pushed large shows without building a performance with the space, and they've done a ton of things that don't help their product. It feels more like greed in the business than an experience. That being said I…

I am 100% onboard with the phone bans. There's nothing worse than hundreds of phone screens glowing in your face while you're trying to enjoy a live act. I can't imagine how weird it must feel for the performer(s) too. To go from people looking at you, making eye contact, engaging with the performance, to suddenly seeing a sea of phones pointed at you, with everyone watching you indirectly via their phone screen.

There are far better ways to address people holding up their phones to record than to outright ban them from everyone. There are strong reasons (Bataclan) to need and have those there.

What's with the sympathy for the performer? It's hard for them to even see the audience. Most of the light is focused on them and the audience is in the dark.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by 082349872349872 »

greyface- wrote: post #58

Possible confounding factor: they only studied Spotify and Deezer users. This is like studying Kindle users for insights on readers at large. I would not be surprised if there were a correlation between using streaming services (or not) and openness to new music. Study, say, Bandcamp users, and I bet you get a different picture.

Wasn't there already a "Tom the Dancing Bug" about the 13-14 thing over a decade ago?

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by kleiba »

When I was in my teens, I really had nothing to do. Not that I was a loner - I was in a sports club and I had a pretty active social life. But the thing is - compared to having a job, the time I spent at school each day left me with so much more spare time than today [1], you gotta do something with that. And my knowledge of music was still pretty limited, so of course exploring new styles of music and new bands was exciting! Plus, everyone of my friends was doing the same, and at that age, doing what the peer group does was very important...

[1] By which I mean, having a day job, commuting back and forth, oh, and having a family with little kids, which basically means zero spare time.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by 082349872349872 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #11

I remember reading a headline that Despacito had been displaced from the #1 position on Billboard after a 16 week run, while I had never heard the song. At that point I became a bit more intentional about trying to find new music.

you obviously weren't watching enough Sesame Street at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6e3ZTuxC8

Lagniappe: Ländlercito https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwQ1icECNg

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by floxy »

treflop wrote: post #59

my thought is that music is a hobby and people mislead themselves into themselves into thinking that it’s their hobby or that everyone has music has a hobby. I think music is just a phase for most people, as have been most things I’ve personally tried but wasn’t really into but I’m in my 30s, am still into finding my music, and I can’t see that ever going away. and I know people love listening to music from their for…

>it was good then. now it’s tired and boring.

It might be worth revisiting that music in a decade or two. My wife recently found an old Michael Jackson CD cleaning out an box of something in the garage. That sparked a let-me-listen to some more 70's and 80's music. Lot's of great "timeless" Michael Jackson songs. Not so much for Madonna for some reason. The Carpenter's and select ABBA gets a thumb's up from me as well.

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