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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by monksy »

bigirondba wrote: post #23

I’m not convinced that we stop finding new music, we just become less zealous or outward about it as we get older. When I was young, I was all about talking music, having the right DJ list for roadtrips, etc, etc and now? I just hit play and don’t think too much about it. Probably because it’s harder to attend shows, less relevant to my social life, etc. I’ve also found as I’ve gotten older that I just care less abou…

The artists have made it harder. They've pushed for aggressive one sided fan behavior policies (phone less), they've increased aggressively with the prices, the quality has gone down with many established bands, pushed large shows without building a performance with the space, and they've done a ton of things that don't help their product.

It feels more like greed in the business than an experience.

That being said I'm still sitting on the idea of paying 123$ for cage the elephant show on an album I haven't heard yet.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by andrewmthomas87 »

ergonaught wrote: post #39

Well I'm in my 50s, and I mostly stopped finding new music when record labels, streaming, and social media destroyed the prospects for people who would otherwise make that new music for me to find. New stuff still arrives (you're not going to predict that me-at-15-loving-Megadeth will much later also love Billie Eilish or Gin Wigmore or Mirel Wagner or ...) but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by abou…

> but most "new music" is garbage by the standards set by about 50 years of music

How so? What are these standards?

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by coldtea »

bigirondba wrote: post #23

I’m not convinced that we stop finding new music, we just become less zealous or outward about it as we get older. When I was young, I was all about talking music, having the right DJ list for roadtrips, etc, etc and now? I just hit play and don’t think too much about it. Probably because it’s harder to attend shows, less relevant to my social life, etc. I’ve also found as I’ve gotten older that I just care less abou…

>I’m not convinced that we stop finding new music, we just become less zealous or outward about it as we get older. When I was young, I was all about talking music, having the right DJ list for roadtrips, etc, etc and now? I just hit play and don’t think too much about it. Probably because it’s harder to attend shows, less relevant to my social life, etc.

Well, older people (40, 50, even 60+) more passionate about music, they still do all of those (going to concerts, discussing music, crafting the right playlist for roadtrips), not unlike like they did in their 20s.

So, yes: most people do care less about music and stop finding new music.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by coldtea »

monksy wrote: post #51
bigirondba wrote: post #23

I’m not convinced that we stop finding new music, we just become less zealous or outward about it as we get older. When I was young, I was all about talking music, having the right DJ list for roadtrips, etc, etc and now? I just hit play and don’t think too much about it. Probably because it’s harder to attend shows, less relevant to my social life, etc. I’ve also found as I’ve gotten older that I just care less abou…

The artists have made it harder. They've pushed for aggressive one sided fan behavior policies (phone less), they've increased aggressively with the prices, the quality has gone down with many established bands, pushed large shows without building a performance with the space, and they've done a ton of things that don't help their product. It feels more like greed in the business than an experience. That being said I…

>They've pushed for aggressive one sided fan behavior policies (phone less)

That's the best thing they could do for fans.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by kyllo »

When I lived in South Korea, one of the things that struck me was how much "flatter" the generations there were in terms of pop culture and music taste and awareness, compared to the US. I worked in an office with a bunch of suit-and-tie businessmen who were mostly in their 40s to 60s, and if you were to ask them about any current K-pop group, they all knew their hit songs.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by monksy »

BenFranklin100 wrote: post #40

There’s something biological going here I would think. 30 is about the age where fluid intelligence peaks but crystallized intelligence continues to grow for a few more decades. Also, 30 is about the age where a lot of us come into our own as the person we will more or less be for the rest of our lives. I know for myself that in my teens and twenties, music was part of the process of defining myself. By my early thir…

Buy a Nintendo switch, and breath of the wild

Come back in 9 months after you start that.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by greyface- »

Possible confounding factor: they only studied Spotify and Deezer users. This is like studying Kindle users for insights on readers at large. I would not be surprised if there were a correlation between using streaming services (or not) and openness to new music. Study, say, Bandcamp users, and I bet you get a different picture.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by treflop »

my thought is that music is a hobby and people mislead themselves into themselves into thinking that it’s their hobby or that everyone has music has a hobby. I think music is just a phase for most people, as have been most things I’ve personally tried but wasn’t really into

but I’m in my 30s, am still into finding my music, and I can’t see that ever going away.

and I know people love listening to music from their formative years and don’t get me wrong, I too was obsessed into 2010’s indie rock and pop punk too, but I think it’s just people reliving the phase.

personally I will only pretty much listen to 2020’s indie rock and pop punk from new bands if I do. you will rarely catch me listening to music that I used to listen to. it was good then. now it’s tired and boring.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Post by tombert »

floxy wrote: post #41
tombert wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's easy to sit and judge someone as being "uncultured" because they listen to music that was popular when they were a teenager, but fundamentally it's not like they're hurting anyone. I listen to mostly late-90's-early-2000's punk rock even still, and I don't think it's a moral failing that I don't listen to the latest stuff all the time, just like I don't think it's a moral failing for my mo…

>I think it's easy to sit and judge someone as being "uncultured" because they listen to music that was popular when they were a teenager Pretty funny, especially since I just attended a sold-out performance of Mozart's Requiem last month. Back when I was younger, I think the dominant perception was that classical music was "cultured" and popular / current music was lacking in refinement

I think it kind of goes both ways?

Maybe the word "uncultured" isn't right, but I feel like when I say "I don't really listen to much that was written in the last fifteen years", people kind of act like I'm some kind of luddite. I also think a lot of people feel like the smartest people go way back and listen to the classical stuff. Personally, I've never really been able to get into classical music outside of movie soundtracks, and for awhile I was kind of embarrassed by that fact, but I'm not really anymore. As I said, music is about entertainment, and you like what you like.

Kind of related, when I was a teenager, I liked to read a lot, but I didn't have any money. I discovered Project Gutenberg and started reading a lot of public domain stuff (a lot of Mark Twain, Herman Melville, Dickens, etc), purely out of cheapness. Teachers would think I'm smarter than I actually was because I knew obscure literary references from old books in my essays and when I would answer questions in class, despite the fact that it doesn't really require a 10,000 IQ to download a PDF file from the internet and read it.

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