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Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Google delays third-party cookie demise in the Chrome browser yet again. Nothing is stopping anyone else from turning off third party cookies.

I wonder if that's due to marketshare. Chrome is so dominant, maybe it's the only browser that really matters these days?

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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I am not convinced this is ever going to actually happen. Google won't roll this out until they are sure that their new solution basically has the same effect for advertisers as cookies, but with a new fancy name with "privacy" in it (when its anything but). Google needs to be forced to spin out Chrome to someone else, it is a clear conflict of interest when nearly every (or every? are there any that haven't?) other…

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Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

#33

Dear CMA, Can you please let Google do the right thing and disable third party cookies like every other browser vendor.

Dear Internet user, third party cookies are also used be embedded web applications in services such as salesforce. Cookies are not only used for tracking, but also as an example, secure session allowing the bank to secure your login and also the person on the phone when call in helping you via their login. There are decades worth of applications created that likely will not be fixed…

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

#34

It looks to me that the only reason Google is pursuing "Privacy Sandbox" is because Chrome dominates the browser marketplace. (I put it in quotes because it neither preserves privacy, nor is it a sandbox). If I don't want 3rd-party cookies (I don't!) then I just toggle them off in Firefox. Sandbox is opaque in the sense that ordinary users can't hope to understand it; and a privacy guarantee is useless, if the user c…

K-anonymity is where you determine that you need at least K individuals in a group with a certain number of shared personal information such that you can't identify individuals within that group. For example, people >2m tall with January birthdays who's favorite color is red. If there was only one person in that group then you could identify them, so you shouldn't use that grouping. But if there are 1000 people in that group (in your dataset), then you can't ID them, so it's okay.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't Google strong-arming the web. This is Google desperately wanting to turn off third-party cookies, and being told again and again by regulators that they aren't allowed to do so.

Who regulates 3rd party cookies (aside from Warren G)?

In this specific instance, as the article says, the delay is because the CMA (the UK competition authority) needs more time to evalute the feedback from Google's competitors on the proposal.

But regulators from both the US and the EU have made similar statements.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

#37
Why don't they just unilaterally disable third-party cookies by default without providing any replacement? The only slightly valuable functionality that would be lost would be authentication in comment widgets like Disqus.

Ah, right, the makers of the world's most popular web browser are also the world's most profitable online advertising company, that's why.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pure speculation, but maybe there's more to this. If Teams refuses to work in Chrome, it might drive run of the mill employees to Edge?

That seems a bit too conspiracy theorist, especially considering most people have 3rd party cookies on and teams has been around for a long time now (I assume before Google announced removing 3rd party cookies) I think the answer is more banal in that some of their oauth flow runs in a different domain from the main application. I think this is tied to wanting to reuse part of oauth flow in the desktop application.

The auth flow for Teams has always been very buggy so that is a good guess.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

#40

It would be good to stabilize and have widespread support for CHIPS before disable 3rd party cookies entirely, there are use cases beyond advertising for these. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Privacy/Privacy...

What are the use cases beyond tracking that make the tradeoff worth having 3rd party cookies?
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