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Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by ethbr1 »

DanielHB wrote: post #10

the web version of Microsoft Teams doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. I have been eagerly awaiting this change so I can use browser teams, it is the one thing I care about that doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. edit: to my surprise apparently web teams (both "old" and "new") no longer needs 3rd party cookies enabled. Last I checked was a few months ago.

The only good thing about Teams is the fact that I can use the web version to join meetings and avoid using Teams.

It had one @&_+ing job...

And they managed to instead product design something with 2 (3?) different chat models, limitations around every corner, an incomplete API for basic use cases (e.g. getting notified of @'s), and an embedded ability to build entire apps inside Teams.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by ethbr1 »

Meanwhile, in the Chrome MV2 -> MV3 extension saga, it seems like June 2024 is the newest new date in which MV2 may be phased out in pre-stable versions of Chrome.

https://developer.chrome.com/blog/resuming-the-transition-to...

At least, to Google's credit, they're starting to listen to users who give them solid reasons why a surprise migration isn't feasible... tomorrow.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by akaxaka »

DanielHB wrote: post #10

the web version of Microsoft Teams doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. I have been eagerly awaiting this change so I can use browser teams, it is the one thing I care about that doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. edit: to my surprise apparently web teams (both "old" and "new") no longer needs 3rd party cookies enabled. Last I checked was a few months ago.

You could use Multi-Account Containers in Firefox for MS Browser Teams, to keep their 3rd party cookies contained to themselves (and thus useless).

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by jsnell »

nerdjon wrote: post #8

I am not convinced this is ever going to actually happen. Google won't roll this out until they are sure that their new solution basically has the same effect for advertisers as cookies, but with a new fancy name with "privacy" in it (when its anything but). Google needs to be forced to spin out Chrome to someone else, it is a clear conflict of interest when nearly every (or every? are there any that haven't?) other…

This isn't Google strong-arming the web. This is Google desperately wanting to turn off third-party cookies, and being told again and again by regulators that they aren't allowed to do so.

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by TheJoeMan »

DanielHB wrote: post #10

the web version of Microsoft Teams doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. I have been eagerly awaiting this change so I can use browser teams, it is the one thing I care about that doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. edit: to my surprise apparently web teams (both "old" and "new") no longer needs 3rd party cookies enabled. Last I checked was a few months ago.

Pure speculation, but maybe there's more to this. If Teams refuses to work in Chrome, it might drive run of the mill employees to Edge?

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by hawski »

DanielHB wrote: post #10

the web version of Microsoft Teams doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. I have been eagerly awaiting this change so I can use browser teams, it is the one thing I care about that doesn't work with 3rd party cookies disabled. edit: to my surprise apparently web teams (both "old" and "new") no longer needs 3rd party cookies enabled. Last I checked was a few months ago.

It is annoying, but Firefox asks if you want to allow to use the 3rd party cookies for specific domain.

Example of how it looks:

https://hacks.mozilla.org/files/2021/02/Screenshot-2021-02-0...

Re: Google delays third-party cookie demise yet again

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Post by buremba »

nerdjon wrote: post #8

I am not convinced this is ever going to actually happen. Google won't roll this out until they are sure that their new solution basically has the same effect for advertisers as cookies, but with a new fancy name with "privacy" in it (when its anything but). Google needs to be forced to spin out Chrome to someone else, it is a clear conflict of interest when nearly every (or every? are there any that haven't?) other…

Totally. They do that with PAIR nowadays.
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