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Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by krasin »

jackcosgrove wrote: post #63
insickness wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

New York City had laws on the books until 2017 banning dancing in bars that don't have a "caberet license." I remember going out to bars and seeing signs on the wall that said "No dancing." We thought it was a joke until they came up to us and told us to stop dancing. Places could get hefty fines. It took a big activist push to get the law repealed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Cabaret_Law

How much did a cabaret license cost?

It appears that it cost a lot (a not just the money; also time + hassle). I quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Cabaret_Law#Caba...

>All applicants for a cabaret license had to be fingerprinted; to provide extensive financial records; to meet specific zoning, surveillance, physical security, fire, building, electrical, health, and record keeping requirements; and to pay the fees associated with each compliance.

>In 2016, the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs claimed there were then 118 cabaret licenses in a city of 25,100 licensed food service establishments.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by sneak »

ofslidingfeet wrote: post #64
drowsspa wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Law is code" strikes again! It's not even playing "rules lawyer"; it's pretending that computers, not humans, interpret the law.

If a formal system isn't consistent, then it shouldn't work.

No legal system ever in history meets the criteria for the definition of “formal system” that you seem to be using.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by klyrs »

IanCal wrote: post #49
jameshart wrote: post #22

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And of course, the crucial legal definition of a rave as a place where the music consists of "sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats."

No, that's the definition of music not a subtype > “music” includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats. edit - I should soften this. My understanding here is that it's trying to clarify the difference between some sounds and music . Is a person talking into a mic to a group of people covered by this? No. It's specifically about music. This seems like a ver…

Not all music is repetitive. But that which isn't at least a little repetitive (looking at you, free jazz) is rarely considered listenable (or, ahem, musical) by the untrained ear.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by dzhiurgis »

rand846633 wrote: post #12

Sounds so outlandish, but then this comes to mind how the UK tried to ban raves: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_... > Sections 63, 64 & 65 of the Act targeted electronic dance music played at raves. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when "ten or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave". Sect…

Also:

> legalised anal sex between heterosexual couples

1994 was a wild year for UK

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by marky1991 »

jancsika wrote: post #66
ARandomerDude wrote: post #7

This seems trivially easy to circumvent. For example, take your 3/4 song that's 160 bpm and call it a 6/8 song that's 80 bpm. Done.

Those aren't equivalent, though. In 3/4 it's a given that the quarter note is the part that gets represented by the word "beat." That's 160bpm, so an eighth-note would be 320bpm. In 6/8, the dotted quarter note is what gets represented as the "beat" because in 6/8 the meter divides into two halves of 3 eighth-notes each. So if you want to set each eighth-note in 6/8 to go by at 320bpm, a duration equal to three eight…

I was always taught that in 6/8 time, there's 6 beats per measure and a beat is an eighth note, hence 6/8.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by ofslidingfeet »

sneak wrote: post #72
ofslidingfeet wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a formal system isn't consistent, then it shouldn't work.

No legal system ever in history meets the criteria for the definition of “formal system” that you seem to be using.

I'm sure their attempt to ban music with a given nominal feature will be a total success with no complications then.

If the government can't make coherent laws, that is the government's problem.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by jagged-chisel »

bee_rider wrote: post #6

> As the independent Russian news website Meduza notes, Russia’s national anthem—which is 76 beats per minute—falls outside the culture ministry’s range That seems like a bizarre oversight, I wonder how they’ll deal with it. I guess there will have to be some exception process.

You double the BPM, and double the length of each note. Done.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by jagged-chisel »

ofslidingfeet wrote: post #78
sneak wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No legal system ever in history meets the criteria for the definition of “formal system” that you seem to be using.

I'm sure their attempt to ban music with a given nominal feature will be a total success with no complications then. If the government can't make coherent laws, that is the government's problem.

It’s the citizens’ problem until enough of them can make it the government’s problem.
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