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Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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> As the independent Russian news website Meduza notes, Russia’s national anthem—which is 76 beats per minute—falls outside the culture ministry’s range That seems like a bizarre oversight, I wonder how they’ll deal with it. I guess there will have to be some exception process.

That’s because the news is bullshit. It’s apparently not a ban for all music, it’s a recommendation for _Chechen_ music from their ministry of culture.

A big problem with that is that there's Chechen music -- like, actual Chechen folk music, not Chechen-composed music that (o noes!) succumbed to Western influences -- that's outside the range.

Even if this is just a "recommendation" and not an outright ban, this is still incredibly dumb.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Sounds so outlandish, but then this comes to mind how the UK tried to ban raves: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_... > Sections 63, 64 & 65 of the Act targeted electronic dance music played at raves. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when "ten or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave". Sect…

And of course, the crucial legal definition of a rave as a place where the music consists of "sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats."

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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post #14

> As the independent Russian news website Meduza notes, Russia’s national anthem—which is 76 beats per minute—falls outside the culture ministry’s range That seems like a bizarre oversight, I wonder how they’ll deal with it. I guess there will have to be some exception process.

That’s because the news is bullshit. It’s apparently not a ban for all music, it’s a recommendation for _Chechen_ music from their ministry of culture.

Have you got a source for that interpretation? The announcement this article references does not support it.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Sounds so outlandish, but then this comes to mind how the UK tried to ban raves: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_... > Sections 63, 64 & 65 of the Act targeted electronic dance music played at raves. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when "ten or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave". Sect…

There was an excellent article about this over the weekend: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/apr/20/we-went-from...

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Sounds so outlandish, but then this comes to mind how the UK tried to ban raves: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_... > Sections 63, 64 & 65 of the Act targeted electronic dance music played at raves. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when "ten or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave". Sect…

Amateurs, ‘Merica fixed this problem two decades back:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/senate-bill/263...

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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This seems trivially easy to circumvent. For example, take your 3/4 song that's 160 bpm and call it a 6/8 song that's 80 bpm. Done.

Playing “rules lawyer” with people who routinely respond to challenges with “summary execution” tends to end badly.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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I sometimes think about the idea that different countries/cultures have different levels of what I might call "social development" (as opposed to industrial or technological development).

A country or culture that is tolerant (or just actively does not care about) most aspects of social interaction would rate higher on the scale. If I look back into the history of my own country, I can identify areas where the US has made improvements in social development. Parts of the US attempted to ban jazz around 100 years ago. Later in the 1900s there was pearl-clutching around rock'n'roll as being somehow evil. Changing attitudes toward sex (especially around pre-marital sex, and around how sexual promiscuity is judged differently between men and women) are another measure.

Then there are the things with a strong legal component: the past legality of slavery (and the explicit belief that certain races of people were less "people" than others), denying certain groups at various times access to the ballot box (non-landowners, women, many non-white races). Ballot access is still an issue, even if everyone is theoretically allowed to vote (well, aside from some types of convicted felons, depending on jurisdiction, which is yet another injustice). Then we have discrimination against LGBT folks, including the fact that legal marriage for gay and lesbian couples wasn't universally recognized here until fairly recently.

Some of it is legal, some of it is social/cultural, though of course people's social and cultural attitudes tend to shape law.

So, to me, this ban from Chechnya is just an example of their country/culture being not as far along on the social development scale.

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