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I’m not comfortable with this. I understand that TikTok may represent a national security concern but it’s also a platform that younger generations use for protected speech. What’s the message that we’re sending to this group?
The message i got is "we dont want Us citizens to see first-hand results of American foreign policy.
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Not sure what AIPAC has to do with this. The tiktok bill was brought up as a separate measure, just voted on the same day.
Tiktok has videos of the effects of the war in Gaza. Young people watch these videos. Hence young people don't support Israel.
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Tiktok has videos of the effects of the war in Gaza. Young people watch these videos. Hence young people don't support Israel.
Do Twitter or YouTube have no videos of the war in Gaza, or are such videos a uniquely TikTok thing?
I’m not comfortable with this. I understand that TikTok may represent a national security concern but it’s also a platform that younger generations use for protected speech. What’s the message that we’re sending to this group?
If anything, I’d expect this to bring more oversight to how TikTok algorithmically chooses and presents the feed.
Not always a popular sentiment, but I don't really mind treating a country's companies as that country treats ours. I know this TikTok issue is far more nuanced (who the backers/owners are, how data is treated etc) of course.
Yeah, I'm actually somewhat sympathetic to this move (and it surprises me somewhat that I feel this way). I think the only actual problem here is that the US government waited until a third to a half of the country was hooked on TikTok before taking action. The bigger issue is PR and optics, and weathering a backlash from those users when they can't use TikTok anymore. If TikTok was an obscure app that a few hundred…
Unlimited access to any bit of IP of the company that at any point finds itself within China's borders seems like the biggest limitation.
I’m not comfortable with this. I understand that TikTok may represent a national security concern but it’s also a platform that younger generations use for protected speech. What’s the message that we’re sending to this group?
Is it a security concern compared to everything else we get from China, or are we just holding TikTok specifically to an unattainably high standard? We get so many products from China that could potentially be used for spying that we've never tried to ban due to security concerns. Who can say the ESP32 Wifi module doesn't have a hardware or software backdoor hidden in it? AFAIK, there has never been any evidence or r…
https://fortune.com/2024/04/15/tiktok-china-data-sharing-byt...
If you're going to argue that sending data to Bytedance in Beijing isn't sending it to the Chinese government, you're free to believe that but it would not be supported by the available evidence.
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Not sure what AIPAC has to do with this. The tiktok bill was brought up as a separate measure, just voted on the same day.
Tiktok has videos of the effects of the war in Gaza. Young people watch these videos. Hence young people don't support Israel.
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When they do it, it's totalitarian. But when we do it, it's merely sensible policy.
I'm really tired of arguments like this. The US (and West as a whole) are not a bunch of angels, of course. But the kind of censorship, state-mandated propaganda, and market control you see from China is not even remotely comparable to the situation in the West. Equating the two is at best uninformed, at worst disingenuous or actively malicious.
In West it is not state-mandated. Just state-sponsored and state-suggested.
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They realize that engagement farming not-actually-social media is toxic brain rot.
I think it's the actual content. Tiktok promotes mental illness, fake influencer tricks and stupid dances, Douyin promotes heroic 3 year olds cooking eggs with chopsticks on a giant wok for their sick brothers.
You should see Youtube. /s
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I'm really tired of arguments like this. The US (and West as a whole) are not a bunch of angels, of course. But the kind of censorship, state-mandated propaganda, and market control you see from China is not even remotely comparable to the situation in the West. Equating the two is at best uninformed, at worst disingenuous or actively malicious.
Not yet, but this is an obvious step in the same direction, "banning" a social media platform to prevent exposure to foreign ideas. It's difficult not to assume the motives are similar, a need to control political narratives and manufacture consent for American policy.