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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by cess11 »

dh2022 wrote: post #62
tsimionescu wrote: post #39

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As can be seen here, they did punish these protesters. And the House has just passed a resolution saying that the slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic. Many states, such as Texas, require written commitments from all state employees that they will not engage in the BDS movement or other forms of protest against Israel. How are these not a punishment for deviance from the desired p…

Well, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is indeed antisemitic... because Israel separates West Bank (the river) from Gaza (the sea). Wanting Palestine to be free from West Bank to Gaza means that Israeli state be broken up - which is antisemitic.... Denying someone employment because of their political views is not punishment...

Equating judaism with the state of Israel is quite antisemitic.

Being of the opinion that the state of Israel is illegitimate or should stop colonialising its neighbours isn't necessarily an antisemitic position, though some antisemites might surely agree. Many others will however stick to the mainstream zionist opinion that jews should be relocated from their home countries to an israeli territory in the Middle East.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by xyst »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #112
xyst wrote: post #97

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Are you suggesting whistleblowing? Or inserting exploits into the project?

No, that is the kind of thing that gets you fired and arrested and possibly worse.

So the same repercussions as protesting? Gotcha

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by dh2022 »

cess11 wrote: post #161
dh2022 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is indeed antisemitic... because Israel separates West Bank (the river) from Gaza (the sea). Wanting Palestine to be free from West Bank to Gaza means that Israeli state be broken up - which is antisemitic.... Denying someone employment because of their political views is not punishment...

Equating judaism with the state of Israel is quite antisemitic. Being of the opinion that the state of Israel is illegitimate or should stop colonialising its neighbours isn't necessarily an antisemitic position, though some antisemites might surely agree. Many others will however stick to the mainstream zionist opinion that jews should be relocated from their home countries to an israeli territory in the Middle East…

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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by HDThoreaun »

edanm wrote: post #147
NeverFade wrote: post #133

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> By every available poll, the Palestinians want to kill them all. I think that's a big stretch. Many/most Palestinians want "their" land back, and many/most might want Israel gone. But that is not at all the same as saying they want all Israelis killed. Some might want a one-state solution that gives them rights without necessarily infringing on Jews's rights, some might think that most Jews will have a place to go…

The Hamas charter says kill all jews. They got so much pushback about that that they amended it, now it says kill all zionists. Killing Israelis is not a controversial take among palestinians.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by HDThoreaun »

NeverFade wrote: post #133
locallost wrote: post #75

Congratulations to people with morals. There's always few of them in the present, but also few of them historically. But we remember them more then people looking the other way out of convenience.

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The problem with this narrative is the settlers and ben givir. Neither are happy with living in peace, they are hell bent on expanding Israel's borders, and they have no problem with using violence.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by ronhav3 »

arrowsmith wrote: post #43
drak0n1c wrote: post #12

Regardless of your opinion of the Daily Wire, they have an in-depth article with details that the Washington Post omitted. With hyperlinks to each source: https://www.dailywire.com/news/google-employees-occupy-offic...

Why is everybody in every photo still wearing masks in 2024? Are there seriously still places where this is considered normal?

They are cowards who are afraid to put a name to their noble cause

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by KingOfCoders »

VS1999 wrote: post #153
KingOfCoders wrote: post #149

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Found your own company.

It's very easy to suggest that to someone else when you don't have to take the risk or do the work.

"do the work."

I have founded three startups and currently work as a self employed consultant and coach.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by SpaceGlow »

edanm wrote: post #154
creato wrote: post #151

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They might not want to kill them, but the track record of Arab countries in the middle east regarding Jewish population is not good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_... Do you really expect a hypothetical Palestine to be any different?

> Do you really expect a hypothetical Palestine to be any different? Depends on a lot of factors. I think there is definitely a path by which a peaceful neighborly Palestine can be created, though it will likely take a long time. And btw, many of these Arab neighbors now have peace with Israel, that has held for a long time. Including this week helping defend Israel against Iranian missiles . Not something anyone wou…

There is a path to coexistence, but it needs to overcome a lot of malevolence present on the side of Arab nationalism and political Islam. Currently, violent extremists are setting the tone when it comes to public opinion, and the governements are somewhere in the middle between turning a blind eye and qctively promoting the hate. The right-wing hardliners in Israel also promote a similar dynamic, they are strongly opposed by the state establishment and most of the public, but it seems like the extremists on both sides make each other stronger while dragging the two nations to hell. Yet, the kind of black and white thinking the villifies Israel and naively promote appeasement and pacifism with genocidial terrorists could only lead to a hugh storm of violence and suffering, that may or may not end with the destruction of Israel in the most violent way possible.

Egypt had 66,000 Jews before 1948. A peace agreement was reached in 1979. Yet almost none came back to live in Egypt. Jews and Israelis were very afraid to live in Egypt after the peace.

Only in recent years A-Sisi started to do some work to replenish synagogoues and care for the country's very long Jewish legacy, probably as part of his policy against extremism.

A Two-State solution could work in some constellation. a one state solution I see as leading to massacre and banishment of most of the Jews in the land.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by jedimind »

creato wrote: post #151
edanm wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By every available poll, the Palestinians want to kill them all. I think that's a big stretch. Many/most Palestinians want "their" land back, and many/most might want Israel gone. But that is not at all the same as saying they want all Israelis killed. Some might want a one-state solution that gives them rights without necessarily infringing on Jews's rights, some might think that most Jews will have a place to go…

They might not want to kill them, but the track record of Arab countries in the middle east regarding Jewish population is not good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_... Do you really expect a hypothetical Palestine to be any different?

That "track record" was a direct response to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by the Zionist colonizers. If one studies history in detail and nuance I'd say the Arabs have a much better track record than anyone else esp. Europe.

"Islam saved Jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth." - David Wasserstein https://jewishstudies.stanford.edu/events/david-wasserstein-...

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Post by jedimind »

SpaceGlow wrote: post #168
edanm wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you really expect a hypothetical Palestine to be any different? Depends on a lot of factors. I think there is definitely a path by which a peaceful neighborly Palestine can be created, though it will likely take a long time. And btw, many of these Arab neighbors now have peace with Israel, that has held for a long time. Including this week helping defend Israel against Iranian missiles . Not something anyone wou…

There is a path to coexistence, but it needs to overcome a lot of malevolence present on the side of Arab nationalism and political Islam. Currently, violent extremists are setting the tone when it comes to public opinion, and the governements are somewhere in the middle between turning a blind eye and qctively promoting the hate. The right-wing hardliners in Israel also promote a similar dynamic, they are strongly o…

> "There is a path to coexistence, but it needs to overcome a lot of malevolence present on the side of Arab nationalism and political Islam."

I doubt that you can provide evidence for your biased statements with full context of the history of Zionism and its crimes against the natives of the region.

"Islam saved Jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth." - David Wasserstein https://jewishstudies.stanford.edu/events/david-wasserstein-...

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