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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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That's like saying Occupy Wall Street should have protested in the Bronx, so they wouldn't disturb Wall Street.

And look how effective the Occupy Wall Street protests have been!

Oh yeah good idea anything that ends up failing shouldn’t be attempted in the first place

Genius!! Why doesn’t everyone do that?!

Cmon man hahah

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #13

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When that happened in Poland in 1980, the activist workers won.[1] That's one of the places where the downfall of the USSR began. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_uni...

Oh please. USSR broke to pieces because of internal problems not because some Polish workers locked themselves up in a shipyard.

Animats did not claim otherwise AFAICT. The forming of a union in Poland in 1980 is something I’ve been taught was one of the earliest public signs that Kremlin was losing its grasp over the east bloc. That’s not at all incompatible with Soviet falling apart due to internal problems.

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My point was that her offense was neither trespass nor interference with others, contrary to your claim. So actually trespassing and interfering with others at work doesn’t make you a Rosa Parks—even if you or others think you’re doing the right thing. Besides, Ms. Parks herself was impacted by the unjust laws that required her to sit at the back of the bus. It’s unclear how Google’s activities directly and substanti…

My point was that Rosa Parks' offense, whatever the racist police's explanation for it, was indeed interfering with apartheid. There is no "contrary to the claim" there. Rosa Parks was indeed arrested according to some legal framework around preserving an apartheid, just like here. Maybe they took some time to "settle upon legal language". Maybe the police here will, too. Either way, both cases are around protestors…

Laws against trespass to property exist in every nation that has private property rights. (They protect you, too.) There’s no “conjuring up” of trumped-up charges going on here.

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> Anti-Semitism appears to be rampant throughout Google’s workforce. If someone would have told me 5 years ago that in just a few years, Google employees would be accused of anti-semitism, or any -ism, really, I would have never believed it. They were on the frontlines "punching nazis" and fighting rising fascism here in US, and here they are, being accused of anti-semitism, themselves.

In recent years the left labels anyone who opposes them nazis. Oh, ANTIFAS are like SS but they are anti-facists. So, I’m not sure that anti-nazis argument holds water

It reminds me of Putin and his excuses for attacking Ukraine -- fighting fascists, of course. How can the Americans oppose that, he is doing exactly what they are doing. They are brothers in arms, really.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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You'd rather Israel doesn't have the technology to target terrorists with precision, and instead will be forced to use crude methods to carpet-bomb large areas where they hide?

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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #87

> Anti-Semitism appears to be rampant throughout Google’s workforce. If someone would have told me 5 years ago that in just a few years, Google employees would be accused of anti-semitism, or any -ism, really, I would have never believed it. They were on the frontlines "punching nazis" and fighting rising fascism here in US, and here they are, being accused of anti-semitism, themselves.

Not sure how else you would label spraying "Kill all the Jews" in a toilet stall.

Oh sure, I agree. I am not saying those are not, just that it's so shocking to find it's Googlers.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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Freedom on full display. Employees free to break their employment contract. Employer free to fire them. Let me guess, you want power to control what people and companies can or can not do? I don’t trust you enough to put you in control of that.

You would be right if they were fired, but they were arrested by the state. Not so free to protest.

They weren't arrested for protesting. They were arrested for trespassing.

Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel

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post #106

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It doesn’t matter. The law is what it is. Breaking the law to get your way isn’t the right way to get things done. Otherwise we’d all be justified in doing it whenever we don’t like something and there would be no point in laws anymore. In a democracy, you can participate in our system and vote to have it changed, though. And that’s the effective way to address these issues.

Breaking the law isn't a moral question, it's a legal one. You break the law, you go to jail, okay. But what is this "it isn't right" business? Some innocent bystanders are inconvenienced, so what? These people are protesting their employer's complicity in mass murder! And a corporation isn't a democracy, so they can't "vote to have it changed". Should they be bringing their concerns to HR, is that the right way to g…

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