They should've protested outside, not disturbing others.
That's like saying Occupy Wall Street should have protested in the Bronx, so they wouldn't disturb Wall Street.
And look how effective the Occupy Wall Street protests have been!
Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel
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Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel
#112I can see both sides: Yes, Google offices are private property. Yes, Google is an American company - if Google's employees don't agree with an American company serving America and its allies - Israel has been an ally for a long time - then, they should leave for more agreeable pastures. They can even remove Google from their resume once they've found a better resume brand. However, If I were an employee at Google, an…
Are you suggesting whistleblowing? Or inserting exploits into the project?
No, that is the kind of thing that gets you fired and arrested and possibly worse.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn’t matter. The law is what it is. Breaking the law to get your way isn’t the right way to get things done. Otherwise we’d all be justified in doing it whenever we don’t like something and there would be no point in laws anymore. In a democracy, you can participate in our system and vote to have it changed, though. And that’s the effective way to address these issues.
Breaking the law isn't a moral question, it's a legal one. You break the law, you go to jail, okay. But what is this "it isn't right" business? Some innocent bystanders are inconvenienced, so what? These people are protesting their employer's complicity in mass murder! And a corporation isn't a democracy, so they can't "vote to have it changed". Should they be bringing their concerns to HR, is that the right way to g…
First of all, these are (probably now former) Google employees. I don’t work for Google, but I do know that most big companies have established channels for addressing employee grievances.
Second, Google isn’t a democracy, but we have a democratic system that allows us to influence our representatives to make reprehensible conduct illegal. If you want to change how a business operates, you can arrange a boycott as well. Companies take the threat of losing significant amounts of money very seriously.
If you honestly think that this type of action should be legal, then by all means, go convince our government to make it so. But I don’t think you are considering the long-term consequences such a change would have.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, you can't just occupy private property as a protest. Hence why they were arrested.
You certainly can occupy private property as a protest, if you get arrested afterwards is immaterial to the fact that you can indeed do the as a protest. People throw pies at politicians faces as a protest and they're often arrested afterwards for assault, but it doesn't mean they can't do it.
That's some 'Comaneci perfect 10' level semantic gymnastics. Honestly I'm impressed.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what they said about Rosa Parks.
Rosa Parks wasn’t trespassing or interfering with anyone else. And she wasn’t on private property; she was on a public conveyance. She had every right as a paying passenger to be on that bus.
Rosa Parks was both trespassing (she was subsequently arrested, the exchange shockingly resembles the one here) and interfering with folks that her race was legally proscribed from interfering with.
We should all be glad that the view of "she should have just founded her own capitalist, nonwhites-only bus company" did not prevail.
(Google's anti-Gazan defense-dealing is the bus company, in this example)
Re: Google workers arrested after protesting company's work with Israel
#116They should've protested outside, not disturbing others.
That's like saying Occupy Wall Street should have protested in the Bronx, so they wouldn't disturb Wall Street.
Occupy Wall Street protests took place in a park. I assure you if the Occupy Wall Street protesters entered bank buildings and unfurled their banners they would have been arrested.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same contract the exists between CIA and aws for it's top secret regions. I always ponder why people protest against something that happens thousands of miles from their homes, while the same activity occurs in their own country.
It is because the CIA is not using AI to create strike target lists.
How are you so sure?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is indeed antisemitic... because Israel separates West Bank (the river) from Gaza (the sea). Wanting Palestine to be free from West Bank to Gaza means that Israeli state be broken up - which is antisemitic.... Denying someone employment because of their political views is not punishment...
It is not antisemitic to want the borders of Israel to change ( if that is how you interpret the song). Just as much as it is not anti-arab or anti-Muslim to want the Palestinian territories to stay disconnected as they are today.
First of all - this is how the song is interpreted by most of the people.
Second of all - if you really believe changing Israel's borders is not an act against Jewish people (and thus antisemitic) you and I cannot agree on anything.
Freedom to agree to disagree....
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rosa Parks wasn’t trespassing or interfering with anyone else. And she wasn’t on private property; she was on a public conveyance. She had every right as a paying passenger to be on that bus.
Rosa Parks was both trespassing (she was subsequently arrested, the exchange shockingly resembles the one here) and interfering with folks that her race was legally proscribed from interfering with. We should all be glad that the view of "she should have just founded her own capitalist, nonwhites-only bus company" did not prevail. (Google's anti-Gazan defense-dealing is the bus company, in this example)
Those are some interesting uses of the words “trespassing” and “interfering.”
You’ll find a copy of her arrest warrant here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/26/us/rosa-parks-montgomery-...
“It took the police a couple of tries to settle on legal language describing her alleged offense.”
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#120> Anti-Semitism appears to be rampant throughout Google’s workforce. If someone would have told me 5 years ago that in just a few years, Google employees would be accused of anti-semitism, or any -ism, really, I would have never believed it. They were on the frontlines "punching nazis" and fighting rising fascism here in US, and here they are, being accused of anti-semitism, themselves.
Not sure how else you would label spraying "Kill all the Jews" in a toilet stall.