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We need to rewild the internet

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Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by rchaud »

rajeshp1986 wrote: post #50

I think internet was way awesome before digital advertising era. There should be areas of internet which should try to replicate the early internet i.e text-only design, bring back forums and no advertising revenue.

Even with advertising, Google Ads (then called AdSense) was a lot more generous with their revenue share than they are now. Lots of little blogs and forums thrived because the money coming in was enough to keep the proprietors interested in maintaining a community of commenters.

Then comment bot spam started growing out of control, webmasters ceded the comment platform to centralized services like Disqus, and finally Google slashed ad premiums, so websites either started disappearing or getting folded into the properties of 'blog networks' and lost their personality in search of pageviews.

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by rchaud »

d--b wrote: post #11

The geocities times weren’t THAT cool. We mostly had to go through pages and pages of crap stuff, cause we couldn’t find shit.

Geocities wasn't something you discovered via search. It was a directory you could explore, like walking through the streets of a city instead of cabbing it straight to a top-rated restaurant.

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by rchaud »

tsunamifury wrote: post #44
krapp wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find shit all the time. Google still works fine for me. I don't know what people on Hacker News are doing that they can never seem to find a single useful result on any search engine, ever.

Because they remember the past far more fondly than it was and converge the utility they get from the current day with the ideals of back then. The reality is there is far more creative and well produced content on the web and closed platforms today than there ever was in any other point in time. And if you can't find it fast enough, AI can generate direct, customized answers.

I can honestly say the Internet doesn't provide any additional utility compared to what I used it for 20 years ago: email, messageboards, P2P filesharing, Wikipedia, search and online shopping.

Sure we have Youtube and streaming now. But streaming today is just cable TV by another name. You could subscribe to them all and still not have the selection that a Blockbuster or torrent tracker would.

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by [deleted] »

valicord wrote: post #60
krapp wrote: post #29

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I find shit all the time. Google still works fine for me. I don't know what people on Hacker News are doing that they can never seem to find a single useful result on any search engine, ever.

> I don't know what people on Hacker News are doing that they can never seem to find a single useful result on any search engine, ever. And they never give specific examples either.

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Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by aidenn0 »

dhosek wrote: post #91
aidenn0 wrote: post #30

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Almost uninstalled Linux / It happened just the other day

Points for the CSNY deep cut reference.

Just picked up on what GP did first. I'm one of those weird people who listen to albums more than singles, so I don't always know what's a deep-cut. Deja Vu is in regular rotation for me. Country Girl is the only track I'm tempted to skip on that whole album.

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by Kon-Peki »

web-cowboy wrote: post #116

I wanted Tim Berners-Lee's "Solid" project to be at least a partial foundation for this, but it doesn't seem to be getting traction. Some way to "self-host" or "own my own data" isn't very possible in a world of complex system administration and cloud providers, GDPR/Privacy, etc. Maybe solving this problem (via FOSS, hopefully) and giving people their own internet-in-a-kit could be a good way to go? Are there active…

I don’t think the solid project is feasible.

If you create a pod and give someone access to information within it, you probably have to assume that they are going to make a copy of it and that they will share this copy with others.

So what’s the point of going to all the trouble of setting it up in the first place?

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by makeworld »

lancesells wrote: post #100
properbrew wrote: post #77

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If you haven't checked out the "Surpise me" button on https://wiby.me I strongly suggest you do. These digital gardens are still out there even if sadly stuck in time.

I've used that button so many times to find things. I wish there was another directory that had the same unique feel but a bit more modernized. Wiby seems to be only one era or feel.

Check out https://ooh.directory/

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by ricktdotorg »

properbrew wrote: post #77
urda wrote: post #2

More people should be tending their "digital gardens" just to have something to curate and share. Bring back the weird, the odd, the deep-dives into topics you never imagined having such detail, bring back the strange animated GIFS, the websites always "under construction", give me your weird, give me your odd, this should be everyone's place to be free.

If you haven't checked out the "Surpise me" button on https://wiby.me I strongly suggest you do. These digital gardens are still out there even if sadly stuck in time.

hah, this is great! reminds me of webrings in the 90s

Re: We need to rewild the internet

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Post by voxelghost »

shadowgovt wrote: post #59
nf3 wrote: post #15

Frankly, I'd much rather tend to my real-life garden than any digital metaphor for one. I find it so much more gratifying!

Hardly anyone ever complains that I'm doing it wrong, for starters.

Did you forget to enable the comment plugin on your fence-module?
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