996 working hour system

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 3:38 PM UTC

me_me_me wrote: post #68

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

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https://www.4dayweek.com/casestudies https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39457728 ("HN: 4-day week made permanent for 89% UK firms who took part in Worlds biggest trial") https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/14/countries-that-are-embracing... ("4 countries that are embracing—or experimenting with—the 4-day workweek") https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/companies-around-the-wo... ("Companies around the world adopt four-day…

100% disagree. If you actually look at what is happening in the world. Firstly all tech companies are doing layoffs, meaning less jobs available -> harder to get jobs -> people are willing to work more/get payed less. Both US and EU are aggressively pulling in muslim and african immigrants. Again creating pressures to find jobs. This time mainly in blue collar work. This and cost of living ballooning I don't see how…

Post by toomuchtodo » Sat, Apr 13, 2024, 1:44 AM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

masijo wrote: post #5

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>Rest of world is moving toward 4-day work week Where, exactly, is this happening?

https://www.4dayweek.com/casestudies https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39457728 ("HN: 4-day week made permanent for 89% UK firms who took part in Worlds biggest trial") https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/14/countries-that-are-embracing... ("4 countries that are embracing—or experimenting with—the 4-day workweek") https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/companies-around-the-wo... ("Companies around the world adopt four-day…

Post by ActionHank » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 12:41 PM UTC

rkuodys wrote: post #46

ActionHank wrote: post #14

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The rest of the world will look to use 4 day work week as a way to put downward pressure on salaries. China hasn't really needed to put too much downward pressure on salaries.

Can you please elaborate on "downward pressure". Because the way I see it, 4day work week should actually increase the salaries, not reduce it. The way I see - if there is work for 3200 hrs. - it could either be done by one person in 80 weeks (current setup), OR 100 weeks in new setup. Assuming next that velocity should remain the same to keep competitiveness, it's gonna require you to hire not 0.25, but probably 0.5…

Post by ActionHank » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 12:43 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #20

ActionHank wrote: post #14

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The rest of the world will look to use 4 day work week as a way to put downward pressure on salaries. China hasn't really needed to put too much downward pressure on salaries.

Unions and labor regulations are important components of arriving at the desired outcome. You have to keep pulling the policy ratchets to reduce the work week and bolster worker protections, otherwise capitalism will extract until there is nothing left.