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Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use

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I am nearly 70 years old. I have been taking psychedelics for 50 over years. I am retired psychotherapist and I do not have a predisposition to mental ill health. I was also a substance misuse worker and methadone dispenser for over 10 years. I gave up smoking hash when I was 40 years old. I did notice that with the introduction of skunk and the increase of up to 20% more Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), there were more a…

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Good Ecstasy is pure mdma and fillers not necessarily others drugs.

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Reminder. Psychedelics can also lead to extremely traumatic experiences: https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/gb9ar0/dark_dmt_trip_r... This doesn’t get mentioned in the current “psychedelics as a cure-all” hype wave.

It gets mentioned all the time, everywhere I ever saw anything. If you really see info only in such way, stay away from those sources

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How do you know she wouldn't have killed herself without having tried Ayahuasca?

It’s funny, this is the sort of harshness and absolute certainty Jen would have come out with. Nothing is certain but my opinion given the outcome is that it definitely did not help.

Psychedelics are extremely strong experience, ayahuasca is supposed to be the strongest. If you have anything broken in your personality, it will come up. Thats why at least initially it should be screened and if OK handled by professionals who can lead, guide or stop the experience if needed.

I've seen lifelong schizophrenia triggered by nothing more than a bit of binge drinking. For some people it takes trauma to trigger bad things, some drugs, some have luck and manage to go through life with such a thing without ever experiencing it. Powerful tool, nothing more, nothing less.

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It’s pretty scary to me that so many people seemingly on whim are willing to upgrade their brain firmware. I often hear stuff like “and then my whole view on reality changed”. Unless there’s an easy way to upload the previous “factory image” so to speak, it feels pretty risky to experiment with that.

It’s less that you upgrade your firmware, but rather that some thoughts that never occurred to you are thought in such a setting. Having felt connected to nature, or even a specific tree, changes how you view trees and life in general. There are many other ways to gain such insights, like travelling or reading; any insight that resonates with you will »change your view on reality«.

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It’s pretty scary to me that so many people seemingly on whim are willing to upgrade their brain firmware. I often hear stuff like “and then my whole view on reality changed”. Unless there’s an easy way to upload the previous “factory image” so to speak, it feels pretty risky to experiment with that.

I agree as someone who was previously excited about the idea. Although to be honest, I think people overstate the changes. They did not last. Lots of salesmen in this industry like any other.

Reprogramming? Not at all, at least not with intense mushroom experience alone and laying with closed eyes, never did ayahuasca. But understanding way way more about myself, overall brain structure, and ie where religions come from? And by far the most intense and out-of-reality/body/senses experience I could ever go through?

Definitely, those few experiences will be with me till my last breath.

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Good Ecstasy is pure mdma and fillers not necessarily others drugs.

Ecstasy is a street name, and its meaning can vary a lot depending on where you are. Around Berlin you’ll find lots of people that call only MDMA pills ecstasy, while Emma is street MDMA, for example.

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I am nearly 70 years old. I have been taking psychedelics for 50 over years. I am retired psychotherapist and I do not have a predisposition to mental ill health. I was also a substance misuse worker and methadone dispenser for over 10 years. I gave up smoking hash when I was 40 years old. I did notice that with the introduction of skunk and the increase of up to 20% more Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), there were more a…

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Seems like you're talking about yourself frankly, they are not separate drugs. There is usually other stuff in extasy but otherwise it's just MDMA lil bro

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I am nearly 70 years old. I have been taking psychedelics for 50 over years. I am retired psychotherapist and I do not have a predisposition to mental ill health. I was also a substance misuse worker and methadone dispenser for over 10 years. I gave up smoking hash when I was 40 years old. I did notice that with the introduction of skunk and the increase of up to 20% more Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), there were more a…

> heroin is top of the list Can you please share the list? Went through the article hoping to find one but either I am blind or its not there. As for rest of the comment - thank you for your work and balanced insight. All this could have been researched to death (and optimal solutions be picked up based on results with regard to population health) if this stuff wasn't illegal for so long and governments acknowledged…

Nutt’s Wikipedia entry has pictures and sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nutt

He’s been working in the field for quite a while, and many of the drug harmfulness diagrams that pop up every now and then are from one of his papers.

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using anyone as a source for side effects is a dumb standard and we should reach parity with how other drugs are studied just like this study is trying to chisel at while psychedelic communities are uniquely dismissive

Exactly! People that say that they’ve benefited from psychedelics are uniquely dismissive and people that say that those people form a uniquely dismissive community that should be distrusted are not uniquely dismissive

interesting commenting strategy, its as if its supposed to spark introspection by strawmanning absolutes that nobody said to discredit their position, while feigning agreement with them

oddly consistent in your other recent posts

dang, is this substantive to you?

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> When they trialed Prozac on people with no history of mental illness, someone committed suicide out of the blue. I hadn't heard about this before, and while I'm sure it is possible for any drug that messes with brain chemicals to cause someone to decide to kill themselves, I've always been told & read a different explanation for the suicide warning that comes with most (or all?) antidepressants: Which is that a dep…

I can understand why you would have that reasoning, but SSRIs are commonly prescribed off label to populations for non-mental health related reasons, for example ED or urinary incontinence, and in these populations the relationship holds, leading to some governments and regulatory bodies to recommend or warn against use for these conditions. "Although duloxetine reduced the symptoms of stress urinary incontinence and…

SSRIs are never used for ED. If anything they may cause it. They are sometimes used to treat premature ejaculation though because they tend to cause genital numbing or anorgasmia.
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