You know when you see HN discussion on some subjects where you have significant background and it's hyper cringe? Psychology/neurology is one of those areas where the community's commentary is almost always extremely...factually challenged. Be very careful making health decisions based off of HN comments. Lots of people with strong agendas and weak subject matter knowledge. Also, be careful not to over-estimate your ability to interpret random study results. It's kinda like trying to get a project to build you downloaded from sourceforge.
Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
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Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#12> We find that 16% of the cohort falls into the “negative responder” subset. “they should have known they had a family history of schizophrenia before using it!” every dismissive psychedelic user that brags about increased empathy in the next breath but in all seriousness, yes I would like to see more studies so we can at least have side effects printed on the side of the package, so the right people can take informe…
Unironirally this. Whenever taking drugs of any kind, but especially with one's that meddle with your reality. There is no excuse for not doing your research. Your consciousness is all you have
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#13Interesting that OCD is the winning disorder, with zero negative responders. Recalling my mushroom days.... Okay, I think I get it. Psychedelic experience is, in part, about embracing the beautiful chaos of the universe. Surrendering to the charms of free-flowing wild information at scale so huge there's no chance of imposing your own orderly corrections - as you might in normal every day life via OCD. That's my armc…
The n=16 is ridiculously low, though. Psychotic disorder, with 25%/25%/50%... n=4. The only number from Table 2 that makes sense is the aggregate. Even "history" vs "no-history" the differences are not that big, and slightly suggest that having a history of psychiatric illness has better outcome.
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#14You know when you see HN discussion on some subjects where you have significant background and it's hyper cringe? Psychology/neurology is one of those areas where the community's commentary is almost always extremely...factually challenged. Be very careful making health decisions based off of HN comments. Lots of people with strong agendas and weak subject matter knowledge. Also, be careful not to over-estimate your…
I've found this to be generally true. Engineers are passionate and intelligent people, but frequently make the mistake of thinking this means they are experts in everything.
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
so 84% had a positive response?
No.. 16% had a negative response, 28% had ~no response, and 55% had a positive response. I think people would be much more hesitant to try psychedelics for their mental issues if you told them it was a coin toss whether it would help or not -- and was an unlucky game of Russian Roulette from making their mental problems worse.
People take prescribed drugs for less than a 25% chance that it helps and a Russian roulette of side effects. Does sexual dysfunction improve depression?
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#16You know when you see HN discussion on some subjects where you have significant background and it's hyper cringe? Psychology/neurology is one of those areas where the community's commentary is almost always extremely...factually challenged. Be very careful making health decisions based off of HN comments. Lots of people with strong agendas and weak subject matter knowledge. Also, be careful not to over-estimate your…
This argument is moot as we know jackshit about halucinogenics and research isn't very rampant in this area. And what we have is weak bs like this. So both sides are lacking I would say.
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#17> We find that 16% of the cohort falls into the “negative responder” subset. “they should have known they had a family history of schizophrenia before using it!” every dismissive psychedelic user that brags about increased empathy in the next breath but in all seriousness, yes I would like to see more studies so we can at least have side effects printed on the side of the package, so the right people can take informe…
Unironirally this. Whenever taking drugs of any kind, but especially with one's that meddle with your reality. There is no excuse for not doing your research. Your consciousness is all you have
Thing is research has been extremely hindered in the last ~100 years. At least they are trying to do their research instead of going blindly "psychedelics bad, make you jump from roofs and stare at the sun. Take this thingy-zepam for years instead, known to turn you into a zombie, increase the risk of suicide, create dependency and tolerance, and have withdrawal".
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#18You know when you see HN discussion on some subjects where you have significant background and it's hyper cringe? Psychology/neurology is one of those areas where the community's commentary is almost always extremely...factually challenged. Be very careful making health decisions based off of HN comments. Lots of people with strong agendas and weak subject matter knowledge. Also, be careful not to over-estimate your…
I've found this to be generally true. Engineers are passionate and intelligent people, but frequently make the mistake of thinking this means they are experts in everything.
Dentist's curse.
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#19You know when you see HN discussion on some subjects where you have significant background and it's hyper cringe? Psychology/neurology is one of those areas where the community's commentary is almost always extremely...factually challenged. Be very careful making health decisions based off of HN comments. Lots of people with strong agendas and weak subject matter knowledge. Also, be careful not to over-estimate your…
I've found this to be generally true. Engineers are passionate and intelligent people, but frequently make the mistake of thinking this means they are experts in everything.
> but frequently make the mistake of thinking this means they are experts in everything.
That condition has a name, and it is "Engineer's Disease" or "Engineer's Syndrome."
Re: Psychiatric risks for worsened mental health after psychedelic use
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've found this to be generally true. Engineers are passionate and intelligent people, but frequently make the mistake of thinking this means they are experts in everything.
> but frequently make the mistake of thinking this means they are experts in everything. That condition has a name, and it is "Engineer's Disease" or "Engineer's Syndrome."
which tbh isn't fair to the doctors and lawyer who also suffer from the disease