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H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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I only have one proposal. If a company has a layoff in number of thousands, then the company should be barred from h1-b for a certain number of years.

If a sector has increasing unemployment or sub-inflationary total comp growth, no H1-B's for that sector.

These are both wonderful proposals. Happy to see people starting to talk this way. Hopefully we'll see a change soon.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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I was told that entering in as a refugee is the easiest way compared to H1B, Is it true?

My family both won Green Card Lottery which and then got a refugee status. I am pretty sure that double thing is quite rare. Anyhow, either of those programs provide far more support than h1-b or spousal visa, like both allow right to work right away, the refugee had some help with health and income benefits during your first year. I also have known quite a few couples with an "imported" wife, and at least one with an "imported" husband. So yeah, ranking of the programs is refugee->green card lottery->spouse->h1-b with student on the side.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#133

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https://www.bamf.de/EN/Themen/Statistik/BlaueKarteEU/blaueka... I haven't heard of any discontent with the program from locals or applicants. It's growing, too.

Did you know that you could have 15 years of working in the Bay Area experience and still be refused a German blue card because you majored in Physics or EE instead of CS? But mere work visas were easily obtainable a couple years ago with a signed contract.

There are two options to get Blue Card. One is education, but second is professional work for I think 10 years above certain threshold salary (very low threshold for IT, even by EU means). So that 15 YOE IT engineer can certainly apply and get Blue Card. The only nuance is that it needs to be full employment, self employment doesn't count or is problematic iirc.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Yup and that is why people like Narayan Murthy are the greatest criminals in the history of India. Ruined an entire generation of Indians by teaching them to do second hand work and stopped any original thinking from happening. That is why they are so behind China.

I think you're getting the order of causation reversed. The alternative to Infosys in the 90s would be to move abroad or work in a government job. You can't build a Porsche on day 1 - you have to start with the 10k car. The consulting companies kick started the engineering base that eventually led to MNCs/big tech setting up offices in India, and the broader startup ecosystem today.

> MNCs/big tech setting up offices in India also was terrible both for India and the USA. India has no originality, USA lost jobs.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Yup and that is why people like Narayan Murthy are the greatest criminals in the history of India. Ruined an entire generation of Indians by teaching them to do second hand work and stopped any original thinking from happening. That is why they are so behind China.

How is it Murthy’s fault? India started behind on many sectors and needed time to catch up. These vilified IT sweatshop jobs were and remain stable paths to the middle class for young Indians growing up in poverty. It’s only recently that India started to produce high-quality startups, because they had already built a base with the low-hanging fruit first. P.S. - I’m not Indian.

India has no high-quality startups because of outsourcing.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#136

Above all, I wonder why brain drain is not viewed as a geopolitical tool. High skilled young professionals from China and Russia are essentially non-replaceable due to their declining birth rates. You can do a lot more damage this way than through various sanctions. A lot of people already want to move to the US, so this can easily be done by getting rid of the cap and switching to a tax on the employer to simplify t…

The trouble is that optimally using that tool would involve completely draining one category of brain in the target country. That would make a missing link in their economy, but the incoming workers would terribly suppress wages in that sector in the receiving country.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Lol, how are they "lax? And "significant issues" like what? According to who? You? Those countries are only afloat because of immigration. Their homegrown economies are uncompetitive ones based on resource extraction and the trades, and their populations are uneducated and unambitious.

> Those countries are only afloat because of immigration. According to who? You? One of the countries you specifically just listed has just tamped down on some immigration efforts [1]. [1] https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/government-responds-unsu...

A right wing populist clamps down on migration, color me surprised, it must be because of real problems and not to appease anti migrant voters.

It's very interesting how NET migration figures are rarely mentioned when this happens. Yes migrants are entering NZ in record numbers but citizens and migrants alike are also leaving in record numbers. (not uncommonly for the exact reasons I mentioned - the NZ economy is not competitive and it's not a place educated, ambitious, career minded people can maximize their potential)

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#138

I only have one proposal. If a company has a layoff in number of thousands, then the company should be barred from h1-b for a certain number of years.

This is an interesting proposal. Unfortunately, the way around this is a "business solutions" company, whose main solution is providing H1-B'd temps to large companies. There are tons of those around: local companies hire people on H1-B. Foreign companies send people over on L1.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#139
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Lol, how are they "lax? And "significant issues" like what? According to who? You? Those countries are only afloat because of immigration. Their homegrown economies are uncompetitive ones based on resource extraction and the trades, and their populations are uneducated and unambitious.

I hope at least these uneducated and unambitious populations manage to keep people who think like this out of their countries

They do! I migrated to but subsequently left Australia in no small part for the reasons mentioned.
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